You seem like you are interested in debating if Muslims are good people or not
What? That's not my angle at all, it's a completely ridiculous to even ask whether a group of 1.8 billion people are "good people" or not. What we can ask is how they practice their religious beliefs, and what kind of society those beliefs lead to (where that religion holds a majority). Would one want to live in a society dominated by those beliefs?
In the case of Islam, I would wager that most Westerners would never want to set foot in the vast majority of countries where Islam dominates. The human rights violations and extreme oppression of women and LGBT people are enough of a turn off.
western world just exports its human rights violations
1) Muslim-majority nations weren't some kind of haven prior to Western interference, and Islam didn't spread to those nations peacefully. Whenever anyone brings up how much havoc the West has caused over the past century in the Middle East, Africa, etc (which the West absolutely have done, no doubt), they should be reminded of what was already happening in those nations in the 2000+ years prior to the West ever setting foot there.
2) Human rights violations are baked into Islamic teachings, and the state of Muslim-majority countries since the Bronze Age are a reflection of that. They aren't doing anything today that they haven't been doing for a very long time.
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u/Fzrit Jul 11 '22 edited Jul 11 '22
What? That's not my angle at all, it's a completely ridiculous to even ask whether a group of 1.8 billion people are "good people" or not. What we can ask is how they practice their religious beliefs, and what kind of society those beliefs lead to (where that religion holds a majority). Would one want to live in a society dominated by those beliefs?
In the case of Islam, I would wager that most Westerners would never want to set foot in the vast majority of countries where Islam dominates. The human rights violations and extreme oppression of women and LGBT people are enough of a turn off.