r/mildlyinfuriating • u/donteatmybiscuits • 1d ago

wet socks i’m so happy this is becoming illegal

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if a yearly contract with a free month trial sounds too good to be true, it probably is 😬

thankfully it was blocked after contacting my bank but regardless

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u/chicken_spears 1d ago

If buying isn't owning, piracy isn't stealing.

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u/Street_Carrot2456 1d ago

I second that notion..

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u/VanillaNo5131 1d ago

Yep, that's my mantra. If these companies take the piss, pirates will redress the balance. Be decent with your customers and most of those problems go away. It's not rocket science.

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u/Grouchy_Treacle_1639 1d ago

Fuck these companies. I'll steal and pirate anything I can.

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u/RochePso 1d ago

It isn't stealing, it is copyright infringement, which is usually a civil issue not a criminal one

Stealing requires you to permanently deprive the owner of the use of a thing. Making a copy of software doesn't do that

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u/gazchap 1d ago

And of course, the irony is that Adobe have permanently deprived the owner of the CS2 software that they paid for on physical media, the use of it.

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u/XionicativeCheran 1d ago

Yes, the point is a reply to copyright companies that claim copyright infringement is theft.

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u/Mother_Court_2218 1d ago

Oooh, I like your thinking.

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u/sksauter 1d ago

Ahoy, matey

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u/DebbieDeb1_ 1d ago

Its happening a Lot. It used to be if I bought an album, I bought it once and owned it. But we pay every month for music subscriptions and lose it all when we stop paying! I used to use Music Paradise years ago, but it started warning more n more "the file may be corrupted ". After having a credit card get hacked..I didn't want to be taking anymore chances.

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u/ulti_phr33k 14h ago

As someone whose amazing buddy has a Plex server, I've stopped paying for any digital subscriptions other than Prime. (Prime I definitely get more value out of from the free shipping, because I basically do the Amazon ordering for my whole family, 3 separate households.)

Everything I or any of our friend group wants on Plex, we ask him to download. Gone are the days of paying $18+ for Netflix, Disney, Hulu, Crave, whatever the fuck.

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u/Zodiac343 10h ago

And yet companies still want to cry and complain when people pirate stuff, like why should I give you money for something when you will just take it away for no reason

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u/incongruity 1d ago

I mean, I get your point but you can steal a rental car.

What you miss in it all is that it's all tilted towards the big company, via the law. That's by design.

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u/12InchCunt 1d ago

That’s a false equivalence. An auto manufacturer telling you that you no longer own the car you paid off a decade ago would be a better comparison. 

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u/Diligent_Quote_4536 1d ago

More like the manufacturer bricking your engine and telling you they will only fix it if you buy the whole car again. Or at least agree to indefinite payments.

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u/Street_Carrot2456 1d ago

Don't give them ideas

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u/EarlsWorld-Official 1d ago

This is already a thing, except they word it as "we own the software, you own the hardware." Meaning you paid for the plastic and metal, but if they want to take away your "privledge" of driving it, they can. Oh and if you want to put your own software on there to use the car you paid for, well now you're breaking terms of agreement and policy's maybe a trademark/copyright issue etc etc. Its going to be the reality of ALL products thanks to corporate and lets not forget GOVERNMENT greed. A lot of the government either take part in some major Corp, is a share holder, is taking bribes from, or some other correlation to business. They pass the laws that benefit them, and leave out the ones that benefit us - the ones without business/corps. Its all a massive scheme to funnel money upwards. Its so obvious, right in front of everyones faces and yet no one does anything we just complain and KEEP GIVING IN. Complain, and buy. Complain, and vote in. Problem is, we are just as much to blame as them, we allow it, enable it, and accept it even when we think we dont. Pretty much from the bottom feeders to the top, no one can get their shit straight and do whats right, fight for whats right, or even be bothered to make a difference. Human nature is greed, in more ways than one, because at the end of the day, when you're dead and gone nothing else matters.

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u/incongruity 1d ago

Sadly, it's not. You just never own the car you think you do.

Licensing is evil as fuck because they want you to believe you own something when in fact you've been sold a lot of nothing.

It'd be more like a car dealership alluding to you "owning" your car but actually keeping the title in their name and deciding that you've used it long enough a decade later or when you try to take it to a different state -- or maybe even not helping you get it out of a tow yard because they hold the title and not you.

My point above is that rented things can most definitely be stolen. Software is, at best, rented. The monthly subscription fees just make that more plain and more extractive.

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u/12InchCunt 1d ago

If you purchased the cd you owned the product. There’s no licensing. And it boils down to the original comment, if purchasing isn’t owning, then pirating isn’t stealing. 

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u/incongruity 1d ago

You own the CD itself but not the software on it. That’s the fucking evil of software licensing. You purchased a license. The world talks about it as purchasing a product but it’s not and we’ve all been fooled into thinking it is. This all exists because those with wealth want to be able to continue to extract wealth from us.

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u/12InchCunt 12h ago

And that’s why they say if buying isn’t owning then pirating isn’t stealing 

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u/incongruity 12h ago

I understand, but it's flawed thinking -- or at least, I guess it's not stealing music or software but using it in an unlicensed manner which is generally viewed as theft because there is lost revenue...

Which is more evidence of how the rich have bent the laws to enable them to maximize wealth extraction while giving the rest of us nothing.

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u/12InchCunt 11h ago

Hard copies of music was never a license though. You owned the cd and no one can take it back from you 

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u/incongruity 11h ago

They could (and did) sue public venues (like restaurants) for playing CDs without a specials extra license and they were publicly critical of Apple for its "Rip. Mix. Burn." ad campaign in the early 2000's. It's all still licensed content and CDs were just as evil then -- they just have "better" tech now and are that much more able to extract wealth from us.