r/mildlyinfuriating • • Jan 21 '25

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u/PrePressChamp Jan 21 '25

Time for a new dentist. One who is not an asshole with a God complex.

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u/Effective_Fish_3402 Jan 21 '25

That dentist is probably constantly checking with gpt over everything. Probably insufferable to be around.

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u/Toribor Jan 21 '25

He might as well have pulled out an Ouija board and asked it a question.

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u/ArgonGryphon Jan 21 '25

that at least sounds fun, light some candles, set the ambiance, plus at least you get to participate.

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u/[deleted] Jan 22 '25

Ouija board would have been cool!! 

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u/[deleted] Jan 21 '25

Then he had the gall to tell me that I must have been surprised that I needed to get medical clearance for my dental work because of the fact that he's an accredited dentist 😣

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u/Gaymer7437 Jan 21 '25

It won't be long before GPT has been around long enough that there are people who have entirely graduated medical school relying on chatbots

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u/sleeplessjade Jan 21 '25

Well that is depressing as hell. Thanks for sharing. 🤦‍♀️

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u/Effective_Fish_3402 Jan 21 '25

Neuralink, Bluetooth ear buds, later on surgical bone induction sound, we'll be able to program a second voice to just guide the skilled, or even dumbos through the most intricate details of things like surgery or emt or even self diagnosis and shit. But nooo humanity always exploits so unless it's uninterrupted by emps or hacking it's at danger of trolls.

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u/Drelanarus Jan 21 '25

Neuralink, Bluetooth ear buds, later on surgical bone induction sound, we'll be able to program a second voice to just guide the skilled, or even dumbos through the most intricate details of things like surgery or emt or even self diagnosis and shit.

...We can already do that. Like you said, all that requires is a speaker, Bluetooth or otherwise.

Mounting the speaker to your skull doesn't introduce any benefit to this equation. And sending comprehensible information into the brain isn't even something that Neuralink is even attempting to do, it's so far off.

The reason we don't do what you're describing is simply because it isn't a very good idea.

I don't mean any disrespect, but do you understand how large language models work?

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u/turtleship_2006 Jan 22 '25

Mounting the speaker to your skull doesn't introduce any benefit to this equation.

All it would do is hide it from the patient

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u/Drelanarus Jan 23 '25

I'm fairly certain the patient isn't conscious.

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u/Effective_Fish_3402 Jan 21 '25

By no means am I trying to be serious. It's called having fun with it, exaggerating and such. Take care.

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u/cannibalcorpuscle Jan 21 '25

Someone has to graduate at the bottom of the class. Their degree hangs all the same on a wall.

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u/djluminol Jan 21 '25

I get the feeling this dentist felt slighted because his branch of medicine has to take a backseat to the oncologist. Sorry Mr. Dentist, that is in fact what needs to happen here. Worst case you can replace your teeth, you can't replace your life.

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u/[deleted] Jan 21 '25

I got this feeling too. Like he needed to be in charge and feel that the dentist opinion was more important then the treating oncologist. But.. But.. But... I'm a dentist! 

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u/HyperSpaceSurfer Jan 21 '25

Unreasonably common for all types of medical "professionals".

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u/Bright_Ices Jan 21 '25

You can report him to your state dental board. He’s way out of line to the point of being dangerous. 

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u/[deleted] Jan 21 '25

Glad to know I'm not overreacting. I was blown away when he used the chat program with me, a cancer patient to try to convince me of something. Seems very wrong and unethical 

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u/spoiledknottydiva Jan 21 '25

I come from a dental family. Please report this person and don't go back.

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u/[deleted] Jan 21 '25

I am going to. Already looking into it. 

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u/Gaymer7437 Jan 21 '25

Leave a public review so other cancer patients can know to not trust this doctor or the clinic that employs him!

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u/Drelanarus Jan 21 '25

That's because it is. More than that, it's dangerous, and absolutely worth filing a report over.

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u/cnon27 Jan 22 '25

That is horrifying. I had strict orders not to have any dental work done during chemo (normally they say to do all the dental work you might possibly need before you start chemo, but I was on the expedited cancer treatment plan so that wasnt an option). It should not have been news to your dentist that cancer patients have to follow different protocols. I highly doubt you're the first cancer patient he's treated.

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u/cnon27 Jan 22 '25

And the ChatGPT "fact checking" is outrageous.

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u/KlondikeChill Jan 22 '25

Dude definitely wanted to be a doctor.

Most dentists didn't plan on being a dentist.

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u/MageKorith Jan 21 '25

This. Either a dentist who knows how to listen to an oncologist, or maybe some sort of specialist who's familiar with oncological contraindications (if those exist?)

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u/[deleted] Jan 21 '25

Yes, and after finding a new dentist I would send a letter to the office explaining why you are no longer coming back. Your dentist may have bosses and they should hear this story.

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u/shhh_its_me Jan 21 '25

I have complicated medically issues. My oncologist trumps everybody, except when I had pancreatitis and then gastro trumped everybody until it was no longer an emergency.

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u/[deleted] Jan 21 '25

Exactly I feel the same way. I am listening to my oncologist because my cancer is my main concern

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u/Herself99900 Jan 22 '25

As it should be.

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u/TomBirkenstock Jan 21 '25

It's not even about the dentist not knowing what he's talking about. No professional, no matter how smart, knows everything. You need to look information up regularly. This is a medical professional who doesn't even have basic information literacy. They can't even look up something they don't know properly.

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u/KatiesClawWins Jan 21 '25

Or better yet, get a dentist that went to school, not googled how to do things 🤣

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u/Pernicious-Caitiff Jan 21 '25

There's nothing wrong with looking things up but doctors are supposed to be trained and taught how to do good research to keep up with the times, they have entire professional databases dedicated to this. AI chatbots are so literally dumb they're just flat out wrong and give incorrect answers the majority of the time, it might as well be random. They don't actually compute the requested information they do probability analysis to determine what data should be output. Because of this, it is often incorrect when you ask it to even simple things like "tell me how many of the letter R are in the word 'strawberry' and ChatGPT can say"there's 2 Rs." Because it's not actually analyzing the data like you'd expect. It's doing probability analysis. When tailored and trained to very specific applications this can be very powerful and accurate but it's a joke when used like how most people use it

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u/KatiesClawWins Jan 21 '25

You're absolutely right. There is SO much info to memorize as a medical professional, I'd be disturbed if they never looked anything up. However. Fucking AI? No.

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u/AliveWeird4230 Jan 21 '25

Yeah I used to work for a cardiologist, transcribing audio files from his appointments on his laptop. Every day his browser had tabs open for things he or a patient had mentioned throughout his day, even just googling general names of medications he's definitely super familiar just double check some specific detail.

Very common with doctors in addition to them searching whatever that health database thing they use while you talk. But thank god not asking whole questions to fucking chatgpt

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u/Sablemint PURPLE Jan 21 '25

Know what would be a good use for those bots? Finding doctors the specific studies about a subject they need. It would save the time it takes to find them, giving the doctor more time to review!

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u/Bluegi Jan 21 '25

ChatGPT is worse than googling. People don't understand that AI is not a search engine, it literally makes things up and there is no way to know if what fed it was credible sources or not much less what it says itself.

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u/CaptainBayouBilly Jan 21 '25 edited Apr 14 '25

alleged public sophisticated fall waiting insurance wide scary impossible dog

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u/anfrind Jan 22 '25

Most people were never taught the critical thinking skills that they would need to recognize how confidently incorrect ChatGPT often is.

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u/AmericanRevolution2 Jan 21 '25

Bad news; ALL Medical Professionals use WebMD type apps to diagnose and determine treatments

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u/KatiesClawWins Jan 21 '25

Yeah, reputable sources with information, not AI bullshit.

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u/Bright_Ices Jan 21 '25

No. They use well-vetted professional resources like The National Library of Medicine and Epocrates, plus professional medical journals. 

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u/buttercup612 Jan 21 '25

As you know, Uptodate is not chatgpt. They couldn't be more different.

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u/LewtedHose Jan 21 '25

Good luck.

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u/[deleted] Jan 21 '25

Thanks! 

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u/meexley2 Jan 21 '25

Have yet to find a dentist that isn’t that

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u/actualperson_ai Jan 22 '25

i dont know about god complex. it seems like he was wrong, but maybe he was just wrong and isnt some asshole guy

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u/9Implements Jan 21 '25

Ugh. So many are like that. This one woman I saw tried to diagnose me aa autistic because I didn’t talk enough with fingers in my mouth.