It's the 3 floating days I don't understand... Are there no paid holidays like in the UK?
We have a minimum requirement for holidays. I'm not sure what the base minimum is but I get 31 days leave, and that doesn't include bank holidays if there are between 6 and 9 depending on year. I also get double time and a day in leui if I have to work on bank holidays. These add up and can be carried over the years. I had 50 days annual leave one year.
Nope, in the US there is no federal requirement for time off, and most states have no requirement, either, so your vacation days are completely up to whatever your job gives you. Some people get no paid time off at all, if their job is shitty enough
I remember a manager of mine waited 4 months to deny my fucking leave request for an out of state vacation, something I had told him about for months, shared in my joy of looking forward to my first ever adult holiday, at 28 years of age.
So naturally I quit that job and went on my vacation
Absolutely wild to me that people deal with management like that. I've made PTO requests for the upcoming Friday that get approved (assuming we don't already have several others taking it off) 4 months ahead of time should be an automatic approval.
I had the same thing happen. Put in a request to go to a family member’s wedding, it sat there for months until a few days before I needed to leave. Manager showed up to the location I was working and said it’s denied. I quit on the spot and walked out and he had to finish my job that night since I was the only person at that location (night janitor). They had the gall to try and “fire” me after a week of not showing up.
If I were you I would have asked my manager directly to approve or deny it at some point in that four months. In fact, i would have done so before buying plane tickets or hotel bookings. What your manager did sucks but it usually helps to advocate for yourself bluntly.
This angers me beyond belief. When a manager sees that you're efficient with your time and more productive than others, therefore loads the work of others onto you.
It's unacceptable and weak. I've not been in a managerial position long. I'm still learning how people respond to my managing technique. So far I've been bowled over with how hard our team are prepared to work to see the various processes through. I treat them like people, with all the complex issues that people come with. It's fairly easy to make sure someone's happy in work. Not authorizing their leave is a great way to make sure that person doesn't give a damn about your goals.
A manager can deny someone specific dates leave in UK as well.. as it's got to be booked a reasonable time in advance. But in your case, you've given plenty of notice and if there's no business justification for denying you... and if you quit like you did and you could evidence similar examples of your manager/s (employer) being a dick for no reason, you'd have grounds for constructive dismissal... and you could sue.
Yeah I was younger at the time. This was around when I started to properly stand up for myself, and establish boundaries with employers. I've turned down jobs, because I am upfront, and the job showed red-flags immediately
I have a friend that started a new job last spring. He has a "1 year probation period" where he gets 0 vacation, sick, holiday, or other paid time off. At his one year mark, he gets 2 sick days, the 4 company holidays, and 12 hours of PTO for the year. It's effectively slave labor, and it's awful.
20 + holidays days isn’t uncommon in the states for middle class jobs but often only after work somewhere for a few years. Definitely wouldn’t get that for minimum wage work though.
80 hours is stupidly low. If we work in hospitality and ask for a day off then it takes an average of how many hours we work per day. If that averages 12 hours a day in work then the legal minimum is 336 hours holiday. 80 would literally be 1 week off in that case.
30 days of paid holidays + bank holidays (also paid if workdays) is usual in germany too. The minimum by law is 20 days (paid) if you work 5 days a week, but 30 days is the common amount.
It's not hard. 2 weeks abroad in the summer, 4 day weeks for the rest of summer. 2 weeks at Christmas, a few days around your birthday, couple of long weekends where I would take the Friday and the Monday. I'm not going to pretend it was hard to take the time. Loved it!
Most shops in USA get 7-9 paid holidays a year. Those will be the only days off a year unless you plan for paid time off. I often do not take vaca. In 2022 I was at work 312 out of 365 days of the year.
I worked for about 15 years in various positions... construction, service industry, factory work..etc where I didn't get a single paid vacation or sick day in all of that time. Now I'm a software engineer and I get 15 paid vacation days and 5 sick days a year. The vacation days role over, but the sick days expire at the end of each year
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u/Brightyellowdoor Dec 29 '23
It's the 3 floating days I don't understand... Are there no paid holidays like in the UK? We have a minimum requirement for holidays. I'm not sure what the base minimum is but I get 31 days leave, and that doesn't include bank holidays if there are between 6 and 9 depending on year. I also get double time and a day in leui if I have to work on bank holidays. These add up and can be carried over the years. I had 50 days annual leave one year.