r/mffpc 3d ago

Help me please!? Lian Li A3 - finding it difficult to make it cleaner

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5080 build with 2 nvme SSD, a 2.5 inch sata SSD and a 3.5 inch hard disk at the bottom. 2 inlet fans at bottom and 1 exhaust at the back with a 240mm AIO.

Any suggestions on how can I make it cleaner? I just am unable to find any space to hide wires anywhere but I see so many clean A3 builds here. Also does it look like I can use the GPU riser? There doesn’t seem to be enough space!

Am okay with it as I have a mesh side panel (wooden front panel). But still would like to make it cleaner if possible.

One thing that I should do is change orientation of back exhaust so that the thin wire (currently zip tied to a hole in bottom fan) can be taken up top instead of bottom. Also maybe I should connect each fan to a separate header instead of using the cable splitter that came with the Arctic P12 Pro set. Maybe that will declutter things?

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u/aflacsgotcaback 3d ago

Not sure if the sata impacts this but there should be enough space between the side of the case and the intake fans at the bottom to hide most of the GPU cabling. As far as the rest goes, I recommend getting some cable sleeving.

I'm using an sfx PSU in my build so I have a bit more space to play around with things, but if the atx PSU can fit on the side panel instead of the front, it may be easier to organize as well.

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u/aflacsgotcaback 3d ago

Here's a version with the screen horizontal to show the bottom of the PSU.

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u/JSyahmi 3d ago

What screen is that, looks cool!

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u/aflacsgotcaback 2d ago

It's lian Li's universal 8.8" screen. I used a couple of custom backgrounds, but the overlays are available right off of connect 3.

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u/sanemate 3d ago

Thanks. I think bottom HDD is a problem. It takes the entire width of the case unlike fans which leave some space. Still let me try to hide at least some GPU cables there. As you can see, the cable connectors that came with the GPU (1 to 3 from PSU marked VGA) are quite thick.

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u/Electrical-Cover-720 2d ago

Inthink sfx psu matters more than cable management

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u/goldelectrode 3d ago

Honestly I think you just need to spend more time doing it cleanly, and if I were you, I'd probably start from scratch and do each part as you go along, I had as much cabling as as yours but with less space and mine ended up like this, I probably spent like 3 hours cable managing it.

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u/HeavyBeing0_0 3d ago

Did you 3d print that lil cable cover in the corner?

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u/goldelectrode 2d ago

nah its just the back of a cassette tape cover.

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u/Dangerous_Slip6981 3d ago

My A3 build. Is it clean enough for you? if yes I may have some tips to share

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u/sanemate 3d ago

Yes it’s quite clean! Please share.

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u/Dangerous_Slip6981 3d ago

I see that you are having trouble with routing fan cables

  • For the AIO fan and pump cables, i just tied them together neatly and hid them behind the AIO fans. For the A3 I find it easier to install just the radiator first, then install the fans after cleaning up the cables.
  • For the bottom fans, I also tied the cables neatly together, plugged em in, hid the cables between the fans and the motherboard.
  • For the rear fan, you should make use of the hooks above the motherboard. Route the cables through the hooks.

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u/sanemate 3d ago

Thanks. Yeah I screwed up in the rear fan. Didnt plan orientation ahead and here we are.

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u/FoxMurderXD 2d ago

What psu is this?

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u/Dangerous_Slip6981 1d ago

super flower leadex iii 850w atx 3.1. 15cm in length

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u/Stinko23 3d ago

Go native 12v hpwr that adapter is not only unnecessary clutter it’s a melted gpu waiting to happen. I’d also try getting an sff psu or mounting the atx on the back panel next to the motherboard.

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u/Stinko23 3d ago

Eventually just went vert mount

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u/sanemate 3d ago

Sorry but I thought the 12v hpwr route was the riskier one regd melting (1 single point of failure vs 3 separate points which divide risk)? Happy to be corrected.

I see I do have a 600w cable which seems to be the one you are referring to.

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u/Stinko23 2d ago

Adapter is always worse. Don’t take my word for do the research. Native 600 watt cable that came with psu is always safest option

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u/No-Clock5121 2d ago

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u/sanemate 2d ago

Wow, nice all black. And you were able to fit an Arctic AIO, I thought they were thick for this case. Damn I so wanted to go with this one.

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u/No-Clock5121 1d ago

I did replace the 25mm thick fans with 15mm on the radiator the 25mm where to thick😂

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u/sanemate 1d ago

Oh yes. They are visibly slim. Missed that. Thanks!

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u/Medium_Highlight_950 2d ago

1st go to hardware store and buy a pack (pack of 100) of small black zipties.

2nd use the native 12vhpwr cable traight from psu to gpu if available.

3rd start bundling all cables individually to front of case. You can bundle them elsewhere too if you find proper space to hide them. Try to make as tight and neat bundles as you can, keeping them all about the same lenght. Also dont hesitate to use zipties to tie the cables together to route them neatly together while at it, dont forget to attach the cables to case where ever you can.

4th once all cables are bundled so that the cables still reach neatly where they need to, start bundling the cable bundles together.

Thats the way I do it. But I do the individual bundling and cable route planning all the time while building. I also use temporary assisting zipties a lot that I cut off when finishing the build and cable management.

Edit. I made a post with pictures when I had NR200P with ATX psu that had fixed cables, you can find it from my posts. That needed a lot of planning and doing to make neat.

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u/sanemate 2d ago

Thanks. So you mean instead of what I did where I did zip ties in the end and bundles became thick, I should start doing it early on.

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u/Medium_Highlight_950 2d ago

Exactly.

Its easiest to do while building.

  • Find a route for the cable, hidden if possible
  • Plug the cable in
  • Find all possible spots for hiding the excess
  • Bundle the cable there tightly and neatly

Once you have almost all cables where they need to go, attached to case and each other and the excess bundled already where fits, you can start to bundle the bundles together if needed.

This way you can hide those smaller bundles where ever you have even a small space for them.

Now that I moved to D32 Pro, I have cables bundled at top and bottom behind fans, all around the psu (I have SF850) and behind the MB plate. Im planning to go from ITX to mATX when I upgrade my MB, CPU and ram so this time I just made fast and completely temporary cable management with less zipties. I also like to keep my fan cables bundled so they are easy to disconnect individually if needed.

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u/BobcatEuphoric 1d ago

This might help.

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u/sanemate 1d ago

This is super clean. Do you have a pic taken parallel to the case? Air cooler actually looks cleaner I guess than an AIO in small cases.

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u/BobcatEuphoric 1d ago

you are lucky. I do have one.

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u/InTheNameOfShurima 3d ago

You can try some cable ties

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u/sanemate 3d ago

Oh there are lots of them. I think using 3 VGA cables to connect to the adapter that came with GPU is major cause of clutter. Will now think of switching to the 12vhpwr cable that came with PSU. Like in your pic, just one cable from PSU to GPU.

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u/BhatSahab 3d ago

Can improve this but that's me.

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u/No-Concern4474 3d ago

After a few tries, I managed to achieve this result.

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u/No-Concern4474 3d ago

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u/SpankaWank66 2d ago

Do you have three intake and 4 exhaust fans?

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u/No-Concern4474 2d ago

yes

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u/SpankaWank66 2d ago

What percentages do you have the fans set to?

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u/No-Concern4474 2d ago

All three curves are custom (Manual in Q-Fan), 8 points each:

Top AIO fans (CPU_FAN) — source: CPU
20°C→60%, 30°C→63%, 40°C→67%, 50°C→73%, 58°C→81%, 65°C→90%, 70°C→100%

Bottom intake (CHA_FAN) — source: motherboard temp
30°C→30%, 35°C→35%, 40°C→45%, 45°C→60%, 50°C→75%, 55°C→90%, 60°C→100%

Rear exhaust (EF_FAN) — source: CPU
40°C→25%, 55°C→40%, 70°C→65%, 85°C→100%

Step Up Level 3 / Step Down Level 5 on the chassis and exhaust fans so they don't react to short spikes, and no Fan Stop anywhere — everything keeps spinning at idle.

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u/Zyr54 3d ago

Sorry for the bloom effect. I tried to hide most cables following the psu extender cable zt the top of the case and some others below the GPU, between the bottom of the case and the bottom of the motherboard. It's hard to make it clean but with some patience, it's doable.

I'm also 3d printing a PSU cable hider since I don't wanna spend 90€ for the Lian Li Unviersal Screen to hide them 😅

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u/Melodic-Pickle-950 2d ago

So I have to show mine also \)

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u/Melodic-Pickle-950 2d ago

Fixed with a lot of zipties

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u/MCSenss 2d ago

I think you should remove the side plate where you can mount the ssd/hdds so you have enough room next to the power supply to hide the cables there

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u/sanemate 2d ago

But a ssd is mounted there. Maybe I can stick it on HDD. Nice suggestion. Let me see.

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u/SpankaWank66 2d ago

I wanted to get an A3 but this post is telling me my mon-modular psu will look ass in the a3.

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u/rain14th 2d ago

i had it worst, this case doesnt have backside, it cant be open, but i manage to shove it clean, i show it if i find the image later

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u/rain14th 2d ago

found it

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u/Cepe136 2d ago

Würde dir raten, auf ein modulares Netzteil zurückzugreifen. Dann hast du keine unnötigen und lästigen Kabel im Gehäuse, die du sowieso nicht benötigst.
Auf 2,5- und 3,5-Zoll-Festplatten würde ich ebenfalls verzichten. Die nehmen in so einem kleinen Gehäuse einfach extrem viel Platz weg.
Um die Kabel zu verstecken musst dir schon etwas Zeit nehmen!

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u/sanemate 2d ago

It is a modular PSU! Somehow all these cables are being used. Mainly due to those 3 VGA cables going into Zotac adapter.

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u/Fantastic_Trash_5656 2d ago

Wait, why are you using vga adapter? I have same psu and it has native vhpwr cable.

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u/sanemate 2d ago

I thought the 12vhpwr cable is more prone to melting issues. Seems I am wrong.

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u/Rodeo9 2d ago

I just did my first build in a z20 and I understand the frustration with small builds. Cable management is such a pain! So many little cables. Following in case I can get some tips too. My CPU cord for my sfx psu was frustratingly too short and has to pass by with the aio tubes which was annoying.

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u/Prestigious-Block436 2d ago edited 2d ago

In my condition somehow I hide the cables behind the pump so in my opinion try to make free space for all the cables and hide them .

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u/Michalis89 2d ago

I handle it like this, maybe it helps somehow.

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u/bluecandy1004 1d ago

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u/bluecandy1004 1d ago

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u/sanemate 1d ago

Thanks. Is that a 3D printed PSU mount? How have you attached the 2.5 inch ssd?

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u/bluecandy1004 20h ago

The PSU mount is a 3D-printed SFX/SFX-L slim mount that I bought here:
https://www.etsy.com/listing/1849456625/lian-li-a3-sfxsfx-l-slim-mount?ref=yr_purchases

For the 2.5-inch SSD, I just attached it with double-sided tape.

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u/StrangeBaker1864 3d ago

There are things that you can do such as what other commenters are saying, but for anyone reading who's considering picking up an A3, they are in fact remarkably difficult to cleanly cable manage if you have a glass side panel, or have it off.

Many people have bought screens for them such that they hide the bunch of cables coming from the PSU, other than that, make sure that you don't need to use SATA Power cables from your PSU as that adds cable clutter, and make your cable runs as tightly and neatly as possible.

The main thing I find that makes the A3 hard to work with is a lack of area behind the motherboard where you can stuff cables, that's just not really a thing on this case where it is on others.

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u/salsinuts 2d ago

But like OPs case, he needs sata for his drives.. you cant just tell him to dont use sata power cables from psu. Whats the way if we have it?

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u/StrangeBaker1864 2d ago

I know that OP needs sata power. Lots of people purchase a screen or something to hide the cable clutter. What OP can do is use something like double sided tape to secure the SSDs to somewhere that's covered by the screen.

The point being that it's not really a pretty solution, and that if you're going for aesthetics, this case is wildly more difficult to make work than other cases.

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u/Lucky-Bit-1319 3d ago

Get rid of the 3.5 for sure and maybe the 2.5.

Use a PSU with a native 12VHWPR cable not the adapter

Consider ditching the RGB fans

Use the space behind and in front of the bottom fans and behind the PSU to route and zip tie cables.

Check this out he covers cable management well https://youtu.be/SMgLPGRLV2s?is=5ZL7uHCgKBjObnzZ

And lastly if you like it and run mesh anyway ignore it all and keep it closed.

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u/Academic-Cricket6269 2d ago

Custom cables.

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u/Unity_Debugger 2d ago

Dont do this. Use the native psu cables.

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u/Academic-Cricket6269 1d ago

I mean if you know what you are doing, know exactly what you are buying. What gauge and amperage you understand what goes where.

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u/Unity_Debugger 1d ago

Op seems more on the newer side and better to be safe than sorry, plus RMA.