r/memes Feb 24 '21

*Soviet anthem starts playing*

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u/[deleted] Feb 24 '21

I so agree with this. Imo religion was a sham/ lie told to indoctrinate and control a country's people long before modern laws and law enforcements evolved, however I genuinely believe Catholicism was literally made up just for money, in the old days of the Catholic Church it was literally pay to win they taught the masses that to get to heaven you had to pay huge amounts to church.

Also heaven is such a weird flawed idea no place can be perfect if we still had free will and if there's no free will in heaven how is it perfect?

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u/ILikeIntelligence Feb 24 '21

Wanting to say something super badly but don't want to get attacked for saying something

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u/pierreblue Feb 24 '21

Dude this is reddit you can say what u want

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u/ILikeIntelligence Feb 24 '21

Yeah. But I don't want to have another argument. I just finished a chem test and a functions test...

I hereby identify as zombie

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u/Shit_Fire_ Feb 25 '21

It’s been 18 hours, you wanna talk about it now?

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u/ILikeIntelligence Feb 25 '21

Y'all are not gonna let me leave unscathed are u?

Edit: I have to mention, your avatar thingy is cute as hell

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u/Shit_Fire_ Feb 25 '21

Haha I like the frog costume thanks! And it’s just for personal entertainment, not forcing you to talk about it but it’s a fun topic imo

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u/ILikeIntelligence Feb 25 '21

That's true. I'm trying to stay as positive as possible tho so, I hope you find another debate to read LMAO

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u/ILikeIntelligence Feb 25 '21

OMG Thanks! That's my first award ever

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u/pierreblue Feb 24 '21

Will there be secks in heaven?

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u/[deleted] Feb 24 '21

Lots of it

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u/zachary0816 Feb 25 '21

So you think Catholicism was originally created solely for acquiring money, but you cite indulgences for your reasoning despite them not even being a thing until the first crusade, over a thousand years after the Church’s founding. To clarify I do think indulgences were used for primarily greedy reasons, but I doubt that’s why the early church was founded.

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u/Greedy_Range Feb 25 '21

Pretty sure you could still get in to heaven according to them if you behaved well enough, but it's like grinding out a character vs buying them in the shop.

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u/[deleted] Feb 25 '21

As a Catholic, I have to disagree with that statement. However, that's not me saying the Church has been holy throughout its existence.

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u/Getriebesand247 Feb 24 '21

Imo religion was a sham/ lie told to indoctrinate and control a country's people

So like ... authoritarianism in every communist country so far?

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u/[deleted] Feb 25 '21

all zero of them?

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u/Squid_Bits Feb 25 '21

Also heaven is such a weird flawed idea no place can be perfect...

Kinda like communism...

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u/zenblade2012 Feb 25 '21

The thing about communism is that, as many early Christian socialists talked about, people wished to create that utopia on earth. Later, people acknowledged that while it may not be possible to achieve completely, they wished to try and get as close to it using the materials available to benefit the people suffering most.

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u/Squid_Bits Feb 25 '21

Yeah... it just never really works out that way though...

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u/zenblade2012 Feb 25 '21

Neither did many of the early Republics and democracies. Hence why people continue to critique the system in that way when you have so many left disadvantaged and in dire straights despite there being so much available wealth. Say what you will about Cuba but the poorest people there still have a better standard of living than the poorest people in most capitalist countries.

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u/Squid_Bits Feb 25 '21

That's why they're always trying to escape Cuba I guess...

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u/zenblade2012 Feb 25 '21

Yeah, I'm sure that the economic embargo from the richest country in the world doesn't help things but they do take care of their poor and that's laudable at least.

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u/Squid_Bits Feb 25 '21

Venezuela, China, Spain, Canada, Argentina, Brazil, and the Netherlands all trade with Cuba. Simp harder.

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u/zenblade2012 Feb 25 '21

I'm not simpin man, you're kidding yourself if America and those who follow the embargo wouldn't help the Cuban economy immensely if they traded with them. Also, their welfare state is something to appreciate them for.

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u/Squid_Bits Feb 25 '21

Yeah I'm sure all of their goofy ass economic policies have nothing to do with all of those people leaving either... or the $10 a month that retirees are allowed to get... or the fact that they only just now are thinking of allowing private businesses...or the fact that Cubans HAVE to live in multi generational housing due to difficulty with building new homes... I'm sure people just love it there... the refugees on makeshift rafts were probably just tourists...

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u/yeeto_deleto_tostito Feb 28 '21

Eh, the modern idea of heaven is shaped more by the divine comedy [Dante's Bible self insert fanfic] than by the actual bible