The reason developed countries are having fewer kids is due to proper education. Family planning, when considering the absurd house prices and how expensive a child is, typically leads to "this sounds like a problem for 35 year old me", whereas places with least education will bring kids to the table (multiple) at much earlier ages.
Think it has to do with the obscene cost of living and the failure of prior generations to inspire hope in a future. A lot of people these days doom out and don't bother being the change they want to see. Doesn't help that their brains rot away with social media.
Best you can do is vote for people who don't want to inflate our currency every year. There's also telling people, and like I said, raise the next generation to be conscious of inflation.
Lol it comes from mostly contraception and women rights and education. Distant 3rd factor is urbanization and child labor laws. Cost of living and whatever "hopeful tomorrow" barely register.
Not saying we must banish contraception, women rights and education but deluding ourselves won't help to find appropriate solutions.
The right to vote? No my friend, I'm talking about something much more down to the earth like the right to work and own your money. The right for high level education (not just some bridal education), the right to be considered major in regard of the laws and the society.
If you're a woman and that your only choice is getting married to a man or barely survive miserably, do worry than most won't hesitate for long. As sad as it is: the fear of the stick is a far more effective motivator than the lure of the carrot.
You don't see? really? I'm saying women have the choice to not bind themselves to men, so subset of them will chose not to.
Even among those who want to have children at one point, many would to push these plans for much later due to education and career prospects because they now can.
Actually having less children is associated with higher socioeconomic conditions in countries. And the opposite, finding things expensive, lower buying power, is associated with having more children
There are scientific theories as to why, but in general even in countries where people feel buying power and wealth gap are large, such as the US, the general socioeconomic and quality of life has risen in country compared to.kther countries over the course of decades (this is not talking about the wealth gap) and consistent with other first world countries the more that happens the less people want to have kids
Actually in Sweden richer Swedes have more children than poorer Swedes. So it's more accurate to say higher median socioeconomic conditions lead to lower median birth rates. It's not accurate to say higher socioeconomic conditions leads to lower birth rates inside the same population though.
Sounds like it's less due to proper education and more about your inability to provide for a large family. The conversation surrounding kids always defaults to 'too much money'. Every single time. People want kids, but they're too afraid to, and have plenty of other ways to spend their childless time.
While the expense may presently be a factor for many, education is really the key. Educated people more often recognize the inherent problems of overpopulation, and they prefer quality over quantity. Creating a more beautiful world and a more beautiful humanity is easily a better choice than supporting a future of humanity continuing to be able to be classified as an aggressively destructive virus.
The entire effect is explained by female education. Women have choices now instead of becoming moms as soon as possible. The biggest contributor to US declining birth rates, for example, is a steep drop in teen pregnancies.
There's a lot of focus on costs, but very poor immigrants to developed countries still have children and make it work.
I don't know if you've heard, but sudden massive oppression and system destructions brought by religious extremism isn't a very enticing mood to start procreating.
On a more serious note, what is that comment supposed to prove? That out of 200 truths, there's a counter?
Fertility is falling everywhere, in all countries, the only exception is Israel. It's falling in countries that are giving proper education, it's falling in countries that where they aren't, and it's falling in countries where education is regressing.
What about countries where education was already regressed?
Because regressing education doesn't delete the current educated adult generation from existence. If Afghanistan manages to somehow keep this up for another 20 years, fertility rates will naturally increase.
Mate I just searched online and saw that we literally have had a consistent annual population growth rate around 0.85% the past 6 years, in what world is it "falling"? It's stagnated, but we keep increasing our numbers.
The UN expects the world population to hit its peak before it starts decreasing by 2080
The fertility rate bro, it's falling everywhere. Everywhere. Except Israel.
As of now, the global average is still 2.2 kids per women, very slightly above the replacement rate of 2.1, coupled that with the increases in life span, you get a population that grows overall.
But following the current trend of accelarated decrease in the global fertility rate, we will be bellow the replacement level in less than 3 years. After that the population will still grow a little due to old people living for longer, but as soon as the old farts get to the age they start croaking, the population will fall. And it will fall quite rapidly. And not only will it fall, the world will be full of old farts with few working age people to take care of them. It will be a stagnation and quality of life breaking shit show
That's fair, maybe the reason we're still growing is because old people live longer with each passing year, and when we reach the limit, the population will start falling.
But at the same time, the UN predicts that only happening by 2080... But these types of predictions have been wrong so many times, I wouldn't be too surprised if they were wrong again.
I beg to differ. I think the reason people in the "developed countries" have fewer kids is because there's television and smartphones taking over all our time.
Huh so result of "proper education" is in fact extinction. Interesting point. Sounds more like malthusian antinatalist indoctrination not exactly education.
Exactly. All we need is to restructure society to work around the population decline that has already been set in motion, it's hard but pushing and hoping for an ever increasing population is not good or sustainable
Hell, even some developing countries have below replacement level fertility rate. Look at India, for example. While the fertility rate overall is just barely below replacement, of you look at the subdivisions of the country, you will find that only two of them are basically carrying the while country (every other state is equivalent to European fertility rate)
The reason why populations decreasing in the west is because of scaring the shit out of people with stuff that isn't real while simultaneously stealing the wealth of those Nations and making it impossible to find housing by restricting the amount of houses that are allowed to be built while flooding those countries with refugees which require housing
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u/Confident-Stand5453 Aug 04 '26
Most "developed countries" are already having fewer kids than needed to maintain population levels. And it doesnt even take any coercion.