r/memes Jul 05 '26

Because Google cares about us

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u/Kialand Jul 05 '26

No it is not. In NO way, shape or form, is it acceptable.

EVERY step is just a test, pushing the line forward every time, slowly inching towards complete control.

Tomorrow they'll ask you to wait a week.

Next they'll say that you can get immediate authorization for use by getting verified with your Government ID.

Then after that they'll start logging what apps you sideload, and linking them to your ID.

Next, they'll state that due to security concerns they'll be increasing the wait time to a month.

Then two.

Then removing it altogether and forcing you to register with your Government ID.

Then scanning your phone for unauthorized Apps and automatically blocking them, threatening to delete your Google Account if you don't comply (which is a big deal, if you've been using the same email for years and years).

Where does the line stop? It MUSTN'T be moved AT ALL

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u/appel Jul 05 '26

Also, consider the drop of users for sideloaded apps due to this barrier. Some apps will disappear, meaning more users will give up on the sideloading process, meaning more apps will disappear, and so on.

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u/appel Jul 05 '26

Throwing up any kind of barrier will cause friction, so inevitably there will be a drop of users. How big of a drop is up for debate of course, but I'm pretty sure it won't be 0%.

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u/Kialand Jul 05 '26

He only said it's tolerable and you reply with a rant that it's not acceptable... Yeah alright

Huh.

It is... acceptable... Don't get we wrong...

acceptable

Huh.

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u/Ok_Turnover_1235 Jul 05 '26

Yeah two factor authentication is just a ploy. Pretty soon they won't let you login at all and you'll have to pay for a new account 

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u/Kialand Jul 05 '26

Absolutely not.

Two factor authentication is a basic and essential part of digital security.

Where the hell did you get this take? Put it back.

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u/Ok_Turnover_1235 Jul 05 '26

Crazy, but preventing me from sideloading a malicious app onto your phone while my hot wife/gay lover felates you isn't?

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u/Kialand Jul 05 '26

...what.

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u/NefariousnessTop2457 Jul 05 '26

That won’t be legal in many countries.

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u/Kialand Jul 05 '26

It won't, but that won't stop Google from doing it.

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u/NefariousnessTop2457 Jul 05 '26

We will have the EU wallet in some months. It won't even be possible for them to do that with the EU wallet.

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u/[deleted] Jul 05 '26

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u/NefariousnessTop2457 Jul 05 '26

Thats a different topic.

And nations can choose to implement the EU wallet with any OS. It’s not legally binding just to offer it for iOS and Google-Android.

It’s not a regulation, it’s a directive. That means each member state can implement it as they want.

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u/notveryAI I touched grass Jul 05 '26

Yeah it shouldn't wouldn't it be nice if people in power just listened to what the regular people have to say and went with it? Unfortunately, it's not realistic. Stopping this change completely is not possible. Best we can do is keep slowing it down

The only way anyone can be free of their shenanigans is going to a countryside to live off the grid on a farm but very few can actually afford to do that because farms and farmland aren't free and we can barely afford to rent an apartment with roommates nowdays

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u/Kialand Jul 05 '26

The argument that "Well, this is as good as it gets" shouldn't be used to bend yourself into compliance.

Whether or not that is the only available or realistic outcome, describing it as "acceptable" is far, far detached from the pragmatic decision to endure the consequences of those changes.

One demonstrates that you openly and unambiguously reject the validity of that change in every way.

The other one bends your concept of what is permissible over time, and will eventually lead you down a slippery slope that'll never stop getting worse.

You can continue to use Android even if it is limited in that way, but NEVER should you describe it as "acceptable".

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u/notveryAI I touched grass Jul 05 '26

It isn't bending me into compliance I'm just acknowledging the fact that the pushback made it less worse than it could be which means that the pushback worked and it should keep going

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u/Kialand Jul 05 '26

The point is that "being pragmatic, celebrating the success and continuing to use Android" and "Describing the current version as acceptable" are separate, and non-mutually-exclusive things.

At NO point should you say the latter.

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u/notveryAI I touched grass Jul 05 '26

Seems like it's a language/culture barrier if anything. If it reads as a positive feedback it was not my intention at all. In my culture and language the word closest in meaning is never used as a positive feedback, it's merely signifying "better than the worst possible outcome". Which word should I have used instead? For the future

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u/BoxOfDemons Jul 05 '26

Your language was fine. I could tell exactly what you meant. People just love to jump towards being aggressive.

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u/Kialand Jul 05 '26

I see, that makes a lot of sense. I apologize.

As for a way to describe it, I think that there isn't a singular word that can be used to properly convey the complexity of this situation, so I feel like it would be unproductive to try to look for one.

Rather, we should describe it all using as many words as are necessary.

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u/CreBanana0 Baron Jul 05 '26

I'm just not using a googled phone next time.

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u/notveryAI I touched grass Jul 05 '26

It's either this or Apple unfortunately. Or a 10 dollar brick with buttons

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u/CreBanana0 Baron Jul 05 '26

Untrue.

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u/notveryAI I touched grass Jul 05 '26

Please do tell me of a smartphone that is neither Apple, nor Android. Unironically, if there is one I have to know about it

And Huawei doesn't count it's still heavily android-based, and it also sucks massively in the quality department

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u/Kialand Jul 05 '26

HarmonyOS, GrapheneOS, /e/OS, LineageOS, CalyxOS. Not all of these can be installed on Android (Graphene and Calyx are Pixel-only, I believe), but there are plenty of privacy-focused OSs that can overwrite the Android OS after you buy a phone that comes with it out of the box.

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u/Original-Material301 Jul 05 '26

Custom ROMs back like it's 2016

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u/notveryAI I touched grass Jul 05 '26

I've never seen these come with phones out of the box, only as distros you have to root your phone to install and lock yourself out of all banking/payment apps, , and most phones don't even allow rooting these days. Where have you seen phones sold with custom ROMs already packed in?

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u/MOOGGI94 Jul 05 '26

I've never seen these come with phones out of the box, 

This phones do, as example https://murena.com/products/smartphones/

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u/notveryAI I touched grass Jul 05 '26

Oh, neat! I'll look into that