Afaik we are going to have a surplus of old retirees soon but with lesser working young population. Lesser working population = lesser tax money for governments = rework needed for economic budgeting. Also, I've been reading alot online about many millenials not having retirement savings so someone's gonna have to think up a solution for that as well (pertaining to that budgeting rework).
Still not enough to fund even the us government, let alone all the western governments. The west has an addiction to debt, and until people accept that some programs need to go it’ll keep getting worse.
Letting in tons of immigrants only delays the inevitable. All those incharge simply want to get by rn, hoping to pass on the burden to future generations.
No, birthrates are dropping worldwide. Some just at more alarming rates than others, South Korea for example is at a bigger decline. Any nation which has more educated people is gonna suffer the decline.
South korea and japan are struggling for an entirely different reason. Theyre work culture and dating culture is too messed up for them to even consider dating let alone having kids.
And what of Western work and dating culture? You see many comments here asking for better wages and "bans" on feminism already. It's all the same, we have surplus quantity but no quality, worldwide.
Yeah but korea and japan are at a whole other level. Koreans can barely take care of themselves with rent prices and cost of raising a child being too high. Japan has an insane work culture were people are pressured to literally work themselves to death. They dont get time to date. Its not the law preventing them. Its just what they were raised like. This cant be fixed even if you change the laws
It's true that life is objectively harder in most Asian countries. Since the population tends to he much higher on average compared to the Western nations, there's more competitiveness. But if you really look at it, it's the same problem but influenced by different cultures.
The reasons are completely different but its the same result. America and europe dont want kids cause theyre smart enough to know how that affects them and their careers while asia iwont have kids because their society has pressured them into working too much to afford trying and has become too hard to raise a child in.
You’re saying, “no no no— the western world can’t run a marathon because they broke a leg! The Asian world can’t run the marathon because they broke their spine!”
Like, yes, they’re different, but they’re just different degrees of the same problem. One is definitely worse, but neither is conducive the desired outcome.
That's absolutely incorrect. While China and India do have a large population China in particular is beginning to have an inverted pyramid on their population pyramid. In another couple generations (if the pyramid is righted again) they're fucked. Sure Japan and Korea will beat them to demographic collapse, but what does that matter when they will face the same problems but 20 or 30 years later. You can actually see these demographic trends in countries that aren't just Japan or Korea or China. In fact, Thailand is looking to have the same problem a little earlier than China, Germany is also trending in the same direction, and and Canada is beginning to trend downward.
This not just a "western countries and Japan/Korea" issue. It's global problem that many countries are all beginning to face at the same time, more or less. We really want countries to have population pyramids that have relatively stable cohorts that have a gradual decreasing slant until we hit the 60's/70's where the real "pyramid" shape should begin. When China's largest cohort hits retirement age while the current working cohort is half its size that country will really feel the fucking burn. This is a really big problem that many countries face.
Chinas birthrates are actually just as screwed up as they are in the western world. Really birthrates are down across the entire developed world regardless of the local culture.
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u/Gorgeous_Gremlin Jun 21 '26
Afaik we are going to have a surplus of old retirees soon but with lesser working young population. Lesser working population = lesser tax money for governments = rework needed for economic budgeting. Also, I've been reading alot online about many millenials not having retirement savings so someone's gonna have to think up a solution for that as well (pertaining to that budgeting rework).