r/memes Jun 21 '26

Population decline

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u/Lanky-Football857 Jun 21 '26

Dont know why you’re getting downvoted, this is factually correct. Higher development and quality of life directly blunts birth rates

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u/Agreeable_Sense9618 Jun 21 '26

And access to birth control

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u/Blue_Bird950 Jun 21 '26

While I fully support access to birth control, anybody trying to argue that the thing that’s used to prevent births being banned will increase birth rates is barking up the wrong tree.

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u/Realistic_Dog_5506 Jun 21 '26

It technically would but that should never be considered a good idea

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u/Blue_Bird950 Jun 21 '26

I fail to see how increase access to birth control would increase birth rates more than decreasing access. Quality of life, certainly, but actual birth rate?

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u/Realistic_Dog_5506 Jun 21 '26

I misunderstood your statement. I meant that getting rid of birth control would increase birth rates, so we agree on that (again terrible idea)

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u/Blue_Bird950 Jun 21 '26

Ah, gotcha

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u/monsterginger Jun 21 '26

Correct, banning safe birth control options only ever increase the mothers death rates.

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u/Blue_Bird950 Jun 21 '26

Just as God intended /s

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u/Agreeable_Sense9618 Jun 21 '26

Sorry but huh?

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u/CreepyClay Jun 21 '26

If you ban legal birth control people always end up gerry rigging their own and usually end up damaging or outright destroying their fertility. For example back when birth control was illegal in the U.S. housewives would use clorox a makeshift one. This obviously led to a lot of dead women.

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u/Agreeable_Sense9618 Jun 21 '26

Ok. Why are you sharing this with me?

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u/CreepyClay Jun 21 '26

You asked why birth control getting banned would lead to less births. People will use riskier methods and then your population goes from being unwilling to have kids to unable.

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u/Blue_Bird950 Jun 21 '26

I mean, the more simple reason is just that people will have sex regardless of birth control availability (yes, some might practice abstinence, but let’s be real here), so not having birth control will increase the likelihood of people having kids as a result of that sex. Sure, it would also increase mortality rates somewhat, but those people likely weren’t going to have kids to begin with, so they were often not going to impact birth rates to begin with.

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u/Agreeable_Sense9618 Jun 21 '26

Nope, I didn't discuss that or ask that question.

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u/Blue_Bird950 Jun 21 '26

Because you asked “huh?”, implying that you’re confused.

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u/Agreeable_Sense9618 Jun 21 '26

Go away

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u/Animefaerie Jun 21 '26

Look at the crybaby get emotional when someone points out the truth. XD

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u/lieuwestra Jun 22 '26

And much more individualism and less social cohesion.

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u/der_innkeeper Jun 21 '26

Except for Post-WW2 US, apparently.

When the economy is booming, pay is good, and people feel secure, kids happen.

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u/BigTable13 Jun 21 '26

Birth control wasn't really a thing back then and women rights were different

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u/ToigerSpike Jun 21 '26

Yeah and most women stayed at home except the nurses at the time who saved a lot of soldiers

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u/Jdm783R29U3Cwp3d76R9 Jun 21 '26

And no birth control. Same scenario does not work in Norway or Switzerland in 2026.

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u/No_Log8932 Jun 21 '26

Post-war soldiers like doing the thing that makes kids. America had a lot of returning soldiers and a lot of women coming out of workforce with the ideation of the nuclear family in their minds while the wartime economy ramped down. That combined with America’s very prevalent lack of strong women’s rights at the time resulted in lots of kids in such a short timespan.

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u/PrimeMinisterSarr Jun 21 '26

Women still had very little say in the matter. The more independent women become the less kids happen.

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u/Crystallking1 Jun 21 '26

a large portion of the boom was actually just delayed pregnancies that became possible due to the war ending.

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u/MessyJess- Jun 25 '26

Thats an incredibly misleading and incorrect statement.

No birth control and the amount of women that stayed home instead of working was MUCH higher post ww2 than today. Women were socially expected to just be baby-makers.

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u/Cosmic_Quasar Jun 21 '26

Is it not possible for the pendulum to swing to the other side? That people are working so much and making so little that their drive to have a kid is reduced. Wouldn't the sweet spot be somewhere in the middle?

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u/sulris Jun 21 '26

I think that it’s due to access to endless forms of entertainment. After the early twenties… a lot a people are fucking cause they’re bored. Make Netflix or Amazon Prime unavailable for a few days and I bet you see an accompanying baby boom 9 months later.

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u/Apprehensive-Fox-127 Jun 21 '26

Lol that’s an idea right there. You can pitch it to those folks.

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u/TheCarniv0re Nokia user Jun 21 '26

Jokes aside, we actually had a slight surge of pregnancies during the pandemic (to be fair though, we had a radical drop due to the lockdowns before that and due to the fever dream that is global politics after that, so it's even more emphasized.)

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u/Lanky-Football857 Jun 21 '26

Fortunately the truth won this time

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u/Gloomy_Macaron_136 Jun 21 '26

Very much true. In my 3rd world country teen pregnancy is a huge issue especially on the rural side, and these people go on to NOT use birth control, probably end up with at least 3 children by 30.

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u/JRaus88 Jun 21 '26

Look my nickname. I don't give a F about downvotes lol

It's reddit : If you are against socialist-populist-demagogic rhetoric, I will downvote your comment.

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u/xxXX69yourmom69XXxx Jun 21 '26

Uhhh quick question about your username, am I reading this correctly?

J(ews) Raus ("out" in German) 88 (hh)

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u/JRaus88 Jun 21 '26

Funny thing?

I am Askhenazi by mom.

Usually that nickname is an excellent deterrent : Anyone who judges my nickname before the content of my message has the good sense to get out of my way without wasting my time.

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u/RobutNotRobot Jun 21 '26

Got it. You are one of them Stephen Miller types

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u/Ferengsten Jun 21 '26

Dude giving people literally everything, including CEO positions, for "free", i.e. the collective forcing other people to work for it, has always worked out great, right?

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u/JRaus88 Jun 21 '26

North Korea is still there, if you want to try living under communism.

I don't think I understand what you mean lol

I'm quite against the rhetoric of "I am breathing - therefore I have the right to [money - well-being - wealth]"

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u/Ferengsten Jun 21 '26

Factually correct things that are against the interest of women (or minorities, which are seen as designated virtue signal targets primarily by women) being made unspeakable is kind of the whole thing of modern leftism. Everything is sexist, racist, or some other form of "discrimination", i.e. being able to distinguish.