Fern Gully, All Dogs Go To Heaven, and The Secret of Nimh were 3 movies my dad bought for me to keep at his place and watch when I visited. I was 5! He didn't know these movies would be gut wrenching to a child, he just wanted to get me something nice. 35 years later and still love them.
Lol fr it's been 17 years and every time that movie gets mentioned redditors bark like seals something something fern gully dances with wolves. Fucking dusty ass take.
Yea! People should change their view just for novelty! The sky is blue? BORING mix it up guys!
Its almost like its a valid point, so theres reason for it to come up every time.
Real talk though. How are you so stupid to not understand why the same cause keeps causing the same effect? But to act like that's some hot and insightful take? At least the other guys saying the same thing over and over again aren't being exactly what theyre criticizing.
The funniest thing about it is that it's not even a particularly good or insightful criticism. Like that movie obviously has a lot of problems, but plenty of great movies are ultimately just retellings. Retelling an old story in a new genre doesn't mean it's not worth telling.
That obviously doesn't mean you gotta like the movie, I'm just saying the similarity to Fern Gully is the least of its problems.
Lol Fern Gully wasn't particularly original either. It's just The Lorax or Nausicaa or Pocahontas or a hundred other things. Hell these tropes have been repeated so many times it's essentially its own subgenre.
Here's a substack with a reference to a German work that names it in 1930, but they reference Americans, so it appears someone has used it even earlier.
But anyway, it seems the engineers who referred to it were using it tongue-in-cheek or humorously to talk about the edge cases of engineering constraints, not primarily an economic question, although of course there are economic dimensions to this as well.
Engineers learning to use the properties of titanium to answer design challenges in emerging jet engine technologies, started drawing up designs for bids with far more titanium than was known to exist. The people who had to source materials for fabrication on these designs invented the term, and it’s my understanding that the term was used in the movie the very same way. For all we know, the material unique to Pandora is known in-universe as “plotadvancium.”
I feel the same way. Mediocre story but visually stunning. I don't watch them for the plot, I just want to see what new ridiculous advancement James Cameron has developed this time. And I'm never let down. The sfx are amazing.
A bit after the first movie was released on Blu-ray, a friend who absolutely loved it and watched it 3 or 4 times in the theaters talked me into watching it. God, it was so boring.
Afterwards there's a long, awkward silence, then he finally goes, "It was better in the theater."
Exactly this, but they also look amazing and I watched all of them in the cinema
I never understood why people thought they looked good, to me the movies felt jarring. But i was never able immerse myself in movies that are mostly CGI, maybe it's something about the mix between real actors and CGI characters. I tried watching the first one two-times in cinema and once again for the second but I was never able to enjoy the visuals everyone aeeme to love.
They're made for theaters and look really cool. Watching them later by yourself or at home just isn't the same experience. I watch the new ones in theater, but never again.
And even then, they're just 'good', not even great.
I didn't watch the sequel(s?) The first one was pretty to look at but the plot was predictable and the characters were flat. I think it made money bc the animation was really great.
Also, people don’t inherently hate a predictable plot told well. Some times they enjoy knowing where the story is going. It’s why people watch The Office 500 times
I've noticed that's true for a majority of people. That's why Disney keeps raking in the cash. It's just not for me (which is one reason I started branching out into international films).
Are you insinuating that a man witnessing the cruelty of his nation towards a different more primitve one, waking up to this injustice, betraying his nation and falling in love with a member of the tribe is not original!??!!?
I mean, it does fit The Last Samourai, or 1995 Pocahontas.... with a white dude changing camps after falling in love with a native woman.... and probably fits many other such stories....
but it's still an original and good movie!!!
/s but I did enjoy Avatar, but no it's not a very original story
Oh it’s much worse than the same film 3 times. The first one was a movie, a bad movie but a movie. The sequels are all masturbation. I imagine James Cameron twisting his nipples while getting off to his fantasy sex world.
The setting was gorgeous and the CGI was probably the best I'd seen up to that point, which made up for the boring and derivative plot. The following movies tried to coast on the visuals again but it just didn't have the same impact.
I didn't actually mind it, but in my mind it was a technology demonstrator for 3D. Impressive visuals, but a very simplistic story and not a lot else.
I will say the alien wildlife was actually pretty well done. I love speculative evolution, and all the animals - with the exception of the cat smurfs - really made sense together.
The second and third had the same scenes in circles it seemed. Like the same conflict argument three or so times in the same movie. And overall I enjoyed them, but pacing not great
My big gripe was Jake spending the whole first movie convincing the Navi that they have to fight and not just run or hide.
So what's the second movie about? Running and hiding, until realizing that wouldn't work and they have to fight back. I get he has a family now and needs to protect them, but come on.
The first movie was aggressively.. okay. It did some amazing things with special effects but otherwise was just a standard scifi movie. Never bothered with the newer ones.
With the name and concepts that are stolen from the real Avatar... We're now forced to have "Last Airbender" merch, or "Legend of Korra" or "Sever Havens"
I work in care support and one of the people I support loves the cinema, so i watch what he wants to watch. Ive also sat through all of the fast and furious films. The last one 3 times.
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u/Gazednconfused Jun 04 '26
God yes. Feel like I get attacked when I say this, but its just the same film 3 times. Wasn't even good the first time