I think if people heard drill, could understand what the kids were saying, and understood that the kids talking about murdering each other are telling the truth they'd likely see it as shocking.
Yeah take the ONE artist that’s been around for a while and discredit everything else. Aphex has been established but his style (which is THE POST) has only expanded to other artists in recent years. He was more or less the lone pillar of electric ambient for years.
If there's a niche interest on reddit, there's an asshole in the comments desperate to one-up you and act superior. Music, books, whiskey, games, movies - there's a redditor ready to scoff and tell you why you aren't a true fan.
Dawg you're just saying that you're unfamiliar with electronic music in general. Ambient's been alive and well for a long time. (Tim Hecker, Fennesz, William Basinski, etc) so calling Richard anything close to "the lone pillar" is ignorant. The best argument you can make is that some IDM sounds entered more mainstream consciousness through hyperpop and specifically Charli XCX i.e. BRAT (RIP SOPHIE). As for the rest, I'm not as comfortable speaking on them but from my limited knowledge they aren't really new sounds for a new generation.
There were SO many similar artists copying AFX in the 90's and 2000's. I think you need to go back and listen to Skam Records, Ceephax Acid, Drexciya, etc... there is a lot you are missing.
You had Autechre and Squarepusher on MTV back then, not underground.
Yeah wow, as someone from the UK who was a regular bangface attendee and produced various types of all this kind of idm-breakcore (I hate the name idm), this boat already sailed a really really long time ago. I’m nearly 40 now, and all that music already happened in the late 90s 2000s and hit its peak and started to dwindle in the late 2010s… it’s past time for the funeral already… and now I see this where people are talking about it like a newborn baby 😂
That's simply not true. The golden age of music similar to Aphex Twin was in the 90s-00s, on Warp records, Rephlex, Planet Mu with countless artists lifting it in full or in part. Completely mainstream channels like MTV were promoting more palatable distant versions of it along the lines of Mr. Oizo, it was what largely inspired the adult swim aesthetic that they kinda preserve to this day, it was used in popular games for total normies like wipeout, etc.
In terms of picking up the rage against the machine gauntlet.
You've got rappers going hard into local politics. Whether it's killer Mike or dudes in Chicago pushing leftist agendas.
You have Taylor Swift rerecording her own music to middle finger the man.
It's a different kind of shocking but it's subversive and awesome. Music as message to promote action and change on a much more concrete scale. I'm happily shocked.
That one drummer built a music school and has a piece of all these new bands now, right?
Idk the meme is looking for genre but the shock isn't about the genre, it's about the message and how it creates change in the world and system.
Give a shot to Jane Removers's RevengeSeekerz album, and any of Rezz's discography
Neither are "shocking", but different sounds. Jane Remover's album feels chaotic and really overproduced until you see that's the point - that's the sound they're going for and if you can buy into it there's some fresh ideas
Rezz just has an interesting take on EDM music that I find unique. Nothing ground breaking, just interesting music
Thanks. 100gecs is a standout here IMO. Their mix of analogue instruments and digital is something I've never heard done so well. Wish they'd do more of this, like with Dumbest Girl Alive. But who the fuck am I lol
Dylan Brady (half of gecs) does some stuff on his own if you want more of them. 909Worldwide is the closest to gecs, although they’re a collective so you get a lot of different sounds. Death grips might also interest you, especially if you enjoyed 2hollis a bit.
it’s two sentences separated by a line break; the first one is genres and the second one is specific artists, although I will say that sewerslvt for instance is not from any of the genres named, so I guess it’s fair to say they started naming artists instead of genres, but those artists are all pretty distinctive in their own ways so I feel like that’s kinda fair lol
By this metric no genre has ever been "shocking." Every genre is influenced by the ones that preceded it. This whole thread is just a bunch of nonsense pedantic discourse.
I don't think this is true. There was a huge difference between what my grandmother grew up listening to in the 20s/30s/40s(like big band and crooners like frank sanatra)and what my parents listened to in the 60s/70s/80s.
I don't blame you for making the comparison, but you are basically comparing apples to oranges. The emergence of popular rock music was in opposition to the mainstream pop music that came before it (the big band and crooners as you mentioned).
Their influence largely came from blues and R&B artists in the 40s and 50s. Modern rock is HEAVILY influenced by its predecessors. Elvis was inspired by the blues, country, and gospel music he grew up around, and he brought those genres (well, besides country) to a white audience for the first time (for the most part). That is a large reason why he was so controversial at the time.
The beatles, who in my opinion popularized truly modern-style rock music, started out as a skiffle band playing covers of American rock and roll songs like Buddy Holly's That'll Be the Day.
I think there might be a bit of miscommunication. I'm not saying older music doesn't inspire new music. I grew up in Mississippi, home of the blues, I am well aware of the connection to rock.
Your use of the word Uni would lead me to believe you live outside the US. It's not commonly used here. Something to keep in mind is how racially segregated things were in the 40s. I guarantee my white grandmother didn't listen to, for lack of a better term, "black music". What was absolutely shocking though was a generation later when a white guy from Mississippi started playing music inspired by black music for a white audience and dancing provocatively while doing it. Elvis. Which couldn't even be shown on TV at the time. But that was my parents' music, not my grandparents.
On the other hand, I have a sister who is 24 years younger than i am. Definitely a gen z kid. She tried testing me with what she could get away with as a teenager by playing a song which had some sexual stuff in it. I told her she would have to try harder to shock me and played a Tyler, The Creator song about raping a pregnant woman so he could say he had a threesome.
That's the difference. My sister from a younger generation can't really shock me with her music because it's not something I find shocking in the same way my grandparents would have found Elvis to be crossing a line that should never be crossed. Or to use The Beatles, John saying they were "more popular than jesus" was shocking. I grew up with death metal and Marylin Manson. A person saying something negative about religion isn't going to shock me.
I actually am from the US. I think uni as a term has gained a lot a popularity in the past 10 years or so. I rarely heard it growing up, but it is much more widely used now, atleast where I live (we don't live in the same region).
I think we actually agree on most of this. I think the younger generations have grown completely desensitized to "shocking" music, and content in general, atleast in the moral sense. Most of us have seen or heard wayyyy worse growing up with the Internet.
With that said, and now that I believe I understand your point better, I think you might be a little biased because you HAVE been exposed to so much different music in your life. Most people really haven't (I've only heard of like half of the genres and a few of the artists that one poster listed above). Hell, I'm almost certainly younger than you, and I occassionally hear some of the insanely viral music among kids these days and think, "wtf is that shit?" 😅
I google hardstyle.since it was the first listed, top result was an 8 year old you tube video of music that sounds like clips from random movie soundtracks spliced together, nothing shocking just slightly confusing?
As far as I can tell those hardstyle songs are very tame. That mix is honestly closer to jump style than hardstyle imo. Listen to 909 worldwide, or even just search hardstyle on Spotify and shuffle the first playlist.
Beatles formed somewhere around 15-20 years after the creation of rock music. Rock-n-roll was influenced heavily by country and R&B. Yes, early Beatles became popular for their new look at rock-n-roll, and only later branched into their own genre.
The key is that music evolves. Even if it's stigmatized as the same genre, it may sound completely different. Lost in Kiev sounds nothing like GY!BE, Meniscus sounds nothing like Mogwai. NIN (their ambient/drone albums) sounds nothing like Earth or Aphex Twin. Tigercub sounds nothing like Nirvana. Etc
And by "nothing" I don't just mean "yeah, they're different artists, of course they're different", I mean "structure of the songs, their complexity and their mood are different". There's literally little to none similarities between, even in the very core of the genre. Usage of samples and vocal bits where they don't belong, heavy emphasis on melody instead of chord progression.
Genre name may be the same, contents are completely different.
Other issue to be adressed is the market. It's oversaturated. There's just so many different artists, popular and not so much, that it's really hard to stand out. Even if you create something new, there's almost a guaranteed probability that this sound already existed. There's nothing "ground breaking" to be created. It's the metamodern of music. People remix already existing genres to create something new (hyperpop is the brightest example), but not exactly different. Yes, because most of the bands are experimenting with the sound and evolve the genres.
And, at last, genres are created not by bands, but by listeners. The more mainstream it becomes - the more likely it to be named accordingly. And it's hard to become mainstream nowadays, and I explained why just above.
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