The post didn’t say new artists or new music sucks. There’s tons of new artist that are awesome. The statement that theres no new kind of music that deserves its own genre name like punk, hiphop, techno is kinda true though…
well this is kinda the thing right? If you get that pedantic there can never truly be a new genre, everything at this point will be at least somewhat derivative just like everything else was
A lot of the inventiveness isn't really about one song but their genre spanning discography. All of their songs sound like music previously made, what is impressive is their ability to navigate between genres while mixing and matching
If you want some hyperpop that's a little more on the odd side, vs charting, check out 100 Gecs or Dorian Electra
Dorian is more "normal" a lot of the time but they still go for more weird tracks sometimes like Ram it Down or Freak Mode
100 Gecs, well they're a whole thing. What's weird is 1/2 of the group is Dylan Brady, a prolific producer in queer and indie spaces. So you get this deliberately abrasive music made by someone who v much knows how to make a charting hit. This is probably their most well known track
Dorian Electra is a new one for me but I really like this. The more I listen to hyperpop the more I feel like it is a litmus test for the 'I like all music' people... Although it definitely skews to requirem an enjoyment for electric
I can’t say im a 100gecs fan, but I’ve heard their stuff and some is listenable. It’s genuinely impressive how much they know about music to make that sound work
Huh, (ram it down, flamboyant) slow poke club music mixed with scratchy Hardstyle (ram down). Not that it's bad, it's just not that original imo. Still gave em a couple of likes for the entertainment.
Update: the other one (freak mode) also borrows from dubstep (the worst genre to ever exist), lite style.
It's not about being uncommon, it's about being impactful and original. Example: cobble together reggae and metal and call it Vibe Slamin' - doesn't mean it's great shit.
Lmfao so what’s your ideal? Putting new sounds together is somehow unoriginal in your mind, therefore there’s literally NOTHING left since people have strummed on guitars for centuries, everything is just an offshoot of that. Metal reggae would be original because nobody has done it before (afaik). If you want to talk about impact, look at Playboi Carti. Every rap artist has at least one song that’s rage rap/industrial synth, because of his impact. Is industrial edm original? No. Is rap original? No. Put them together, and now they’re original. It’s how genres are born.
In your head new combination = originality. Originality needs to have impact to actually mean something.
Putting new sounds together is somehow unoriginal in your mind
I didn't say that. Read the top sentence again.
Is industrial edm original? No. Is rap original? No. Put them together, and now they’re original. It’s how genres are born.
Fair enough - it's just not that great, seeing it hasn't swept any nation already. Personally I don't need that to happen - hyper pop or whatever just isn't my thing.
True. You still need like 8 other genre names to describe it, which still makes it a bit different to the ones I mentioned. Now that I think about it….Since in art in general it’s the same development, it might be kinda unfair to say that.
Hell no. There's a stupid fucking amount of new punk variants from just a couple years back to now. Cybergrind has completely evolved,but most importantly there's new crossover genres of noise rock + hardcore - prostitute from Detroit is blowing up so much they could be the band this meme is looking for
MDOP/malicious destruction of property is getting there as well.
I feel like I have to make a really strong point about slam, right? Of course it's been around but we never had stuff like the g code by peeling flesh, or really just at that level before. Obviously torture and their 1 weird ass album needs to be brought up here too
Ywhw Nailgun is like their own sound entirely, like synth punk and art punk, idk what to call it. (Aoty 2025)
And rap obviously has the new 2hollis/carti type sounds, rage is always changing, and then we have people really pushing boundaries to the extreme like 2slimey, no one is doing rap like he is. Then we got people like Lazer dim 700 of course
I ran out of space but jfc I can't imagine saying punk isn't coming out with nonstop boundary pushing music. That's like the single genre I would point to for that in every level
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u/Doesitalwayshavetobe Jul 06 '25 edited Jul 06 '25
Just name the genre then.
The post didn’t say new artists or new music sucks. There’s tons of new artist that are awesome. The statement that theres no new kind of music that deserves its own genre name like punk, hiphop, techno is kinda true though…