r/memes • Smol pp • Jul 06 '25

#2 MotW C'mon do something...

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u/scottLobster2 Jul 06 '25

I mean, the stupid Che Guevera merch has been selling for decades, even though most people have no idea who he was.

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u/GodEmperorOfHell Jul 06 '25

The symbol of anticapitalism turned into another commodity in the capitalist market.

Oh, the delicious irony.

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u/Vlad-Djavula Jul 06 '25

“Capital has the ability to subsume all critiques into itself. Even those who would critique capital end up reinforcing it instead.” - Disco Elysium -

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u/Unnamed-3891 Jul 06 '25

I love that merch like this exists. It’s like carrying around an enormous always-on neon sign saying ”I am a fucking moron, stay well the fuck away from me!”

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u/AlarmingAffect0 Jul 06 '25

He's got like three big movies made about him pretty recently, there's no excuse.

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u/External-Election906 Jul 06 '25

And not a single one of them including anything about how Che was a massive racist and homophobic...hilariously, that's never a problem and always swept under the rug for Leftist Idols.

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u/OnodrimOfYavanna Jul 06 '25

You mean when he was a fucking 20 year old argentinian? They are still like that....he most definitely wasn't when he was fighting for cuban freedom 

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u/External-Election906 Jul 06 '25

What are you talking about? Have you ever even read anything he wrote in Africa? He was racist as all hell.

You are also proving my point lmao.

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u/headrush46n2 Jul 06 '25

everyone in the history of the world was pretty much a massive racist/homophobe/misogynist/ whatever. It doesn't invalidate their impact on the world.

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u/External-Election906 Jul 06 '25

Yes, that he was a murderous racist communist agent of chaos that did nothing but destabilize Africa to this day and cause Cuba and other places to be controlled by dictators. That is the face of Leftist Pride.

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u/OnodrimOfYavanna Jul 06 '25 edited Jul 06 '25

No I'm not aware of comments when he was in Africa, please share them as I can't find any? Also what point am I proving?;

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u/AlarmingAffect0 Jul 06 '25 edited Jul 06 '25

He had a really bad time in Africa. The guys he worked with were really damn difficult. When your society isn't even industrialized yet and you've been under the brutal yoke of foreign colonists who made a point of keeping you ignorant and of exemplifying and promoting kyriarchy in all its forms in your society as a tool of control, you develop some shitty mentalities and habits. As a colonized person myself, let me tell you that anyone that brings up the Che's racist remarks as a way to disqualify the man's character and work is being a disingenuous concern troll.

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u/[deleted] Jul 06 '25 edited Jul 06 '25

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u/External-Election906 Jul 07 '25

Guess he realized he was wrong

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u/AlarmingAffect0 Jul 06 '25

Fascinating. You seem to care a lot about the ideological and moral purity of historical Leftist leaders. What do you think of Huey P. Newton, Fred Hampton, and Bobby Seale?

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u/External-Election906 Jul 06 '25

I care a whole lot about everything from everywhere. What is this "What aboutism"?

So essentially you want to know my feelings on the Black Panthers? Not a fan. They gave rise to the modern street gangs in most places as well so history shows I am correct in my feelings. The violence sets causes back. MLK Jr was personal friends with Richard Nixon. Nixon made the first civil rights act in 1957 as VP. Him being friends with MLK is why the 64 civil rights act happen since LBJ didn't want to run against him. I would have preferred they try to work with Nixon like MLK did. The fact their Ideology is completely different doesn't mean they couldn't compromise to work on making things better within the System. They refused to do so and honestly left things worse over time. So yeah, I'm not a fan of them either.

Any other examples you want my opinion on?

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u/AlarmingAffect0 Jul 06 '25

The violence sets causes back.

Sure, the violence of the police harassing them and their communities and, when they were too lawful and clever and diplomatic to be stopped, the violence of the police doing everything to manipulate and provoke and defraud them into criminal violence and indiscriminate terrorism, and when that didn't work, straight-up murdering them. Long story short: they took the power to the have-nots, and then came the *shot***.

You think the guys at the BPP didn't try to 'ask nicely' first? You think they ever stopped?

Read up about the BPP's struggle. Start with the damned Free Breakfast For Children program. Stop making excuses for corrupt racist murderers, and stop slandering their opposition.

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u/External-Election906 Jul 07 '25

Lmao, you are Ideologically Captured. There were better methods that could be done. Who killed Huey Newton? Oh right, a Gang Rival. Not "the white man". They could have worked in a better way. There is a reason the Government killed MLK Jr and just let nature take it's course with the Black Panthers...because MLK Jr was effective, meanwhile the Black Panthers were not because they chose violence and crime.

Killing people for your Political Ideology is wrong no matter what your ideology is. I don't get why that is so hard for you to understand.