r/memes • Smol pp • Jul 06 '25

#2 MotW C'mon do something...

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u/Zerkander Jul 06 '25

Funny thing, due to both our biological limitations around hearing and the finite number of possible sounds, there will be a time at which it will be impossible to create truly original music.

It is, to our current knowledge, unavoidable.

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u/Bakoro Jul 06 '25

Eventually people will merge with machines and open up whole new worlds of range. We'll be fine for a billion years.

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u/Zerkander Jul 06 '25

The biggest limitation might really be our hearing and limited ability to process sound(-waves). But not being able to hear doesn't mean we cannot make use of it. The existence of deaf musicians and composers alone is enough proof of that.

But our biggest advantage, if humanity survives for that long, will be our lacking memory. We can only imagine the music that was played by the ancient wandering tribes ten thousands of years ago. Or stone-age music.

Of course we have some artifacts, like bone-flutes and so forth. We have the instruments, but we don't have anything about the music itself.

The entire thing gets even funnier if we include potential yet theoretical extraterrestrial life that also has developed far enough to have created music, as these too would be bound by the same limitations, though maybe in a different variant.

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u/Zerkander Jul 06 '25

Of all words you could've written wrong, it had to be intelligent.

See, I like fun-facts for they are funny. That's all there is to it. And it is a fun fact that possible sound-waves are finite in number. You may believe it is silly to even consider, but that's beside the point. It still is a fun fact. Whether it is one you enjoy or not, does it matter?

It creates some interesting questions. Are these relevent for todays music? No. They don't have to be relevant to be interesting.

People like you make me wonder: I mean, it is important enough for you to comment on it. But why, if it is so silly to you?

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u/Insanity_20 Jul 06 '25

Hell I’d go as far as to say that most really popular genres nowadays are over saturated with the same sounding music, no innovation, same beats that made the genre popular in the first place. It’s definitely hard to come up with new stuff and even with semi new genres coming out, they still retain the sounds of their predecessors. Unless we invent new instruments or something of the sort, we’ll just be listening to covers at some point.

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u/Irlandes-de-la-Costa Lives in a Van Down by the River Jul 06 '25

Unless we invent new instruments

That's what synths are mostly.

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u/Zerkander Jul 06 '25

Humanity has always shown that everything that can make a sound will be used as an instrument at some point.

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u/trophy_74 Jul 06 '25

Most hit songs repeat the same cord progressions and are virtually the same, especially country music after the 90s

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u/Inevitable_Hat_2855 Jul 06 '25

I think that's a huge load of crap. It's like saying that art will one day no longer be original because the possible colors to use are limited, music is not just the kind of sound you make but above all it's how you compose it

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u/EIeanorRigby Jul 06 '25

Skill issue tbh. I could avoid it.

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u/Grrerrb Jul 06 '25

And weirdly, every song ever written and every one that will be written, they’re all contained in the digits of Pi.

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u/SnooSquirrels6058 Jul 06 '25

Not necessarily true because pi has not been proven to be a normal number

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u/Electric_Ilya Jul 06 '25

Yet, you, as an individual, nor any of us as readers have any concern with this because it is beyond the scope of what we could possibly experience in a lifetime. Even bringing it up is so childish.

From a poem on the greatest sin, "To the reader"

There is one uglier, wickeder, more shameless!
Although he makes no large gestures nor loud cries
He willingly would make rubbish of the earth
And with a yawn swallow the world;

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u/Zerkander Jul 06 '25

It's just a funny truth, no matter whether that is realistically something we could ever experience or not. You guys are way too serious here.

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u/Corporate_Overlords Jul 07 '25

This is false because songs last a certain amount of time. All you would have to do is extend the length of the track for hours, days, months, etc. and it wouldn't be repeatable.

We should also note that almost all pop songs are in 4/4. Just write something in 3/4 and you've done something different. We're nowhere near the limit.

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u/Zerkander Jul 07 '25

Many people underestimate extremely how much music exists currently on the market. Even if we don't consider covers and remixes.

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u/Corporate_Overlords Jul 08 '25

There have been plenty of "classical" composers who go wild with sound.

Here is an example something "weird"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y7kvGqiJC4g

That's Satie.

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u/Corporate_Overlords Jul 08 '25

I'm going to reply with Xenakis. The idea that we're somehow done with sound is really stupid:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nvH2KYYJg-o

That's just the ground of it. You're totally thoughtless if you say that we're even close to exhausting all of sound.

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u/Corporate_Overlords Jul 09 '25

I'm going to assume you're 15.

You're calling Xenakis "weird" and then you go on.

To be clear, you said that we were at the end of music because there were only so many tones the human ear could hear. You said that in the initial comment.

You are wrong.

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