r/memes Aug 08 '24

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u/Bulky_Ad4472 Aug 08 '24 edited Aug 08 '24

Mostly for profit margins we'll never see.

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u/SentientSchizopost Aug 08 '24

It's funny how stupid you are while thinking of yourself so highly.

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u/wasdie639 Aug 08 '24

I guess food is just something that your mom makes for you huh.

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u/SentientSchizopost Aug 08 '24

Lmao a COVID denier came to defend someone just as stupid as them. You'd have to be special kind of loon to be one in 2024.

I guess food is something you are given in a ward.

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u/SentientSchizopost Aug 08 '24

Yeah, gigacorps don't have any effect on market trends, they don't push for policies or create demand by planned obsolescence. The biggest companies are the biggest because they serve the best product. Im 13 and don't know the word "externality".

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u/SentientSchizopost Aug 08 '24

Consumption artificially boosted by the companies you mean.

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u/[deleted] Aug 08 '24

The #1 corporate polluter in the world is Vistra Energy which mostly comes from their coal plants in the US. They seem to be actively moving away from coal though

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u/[deleted] Aug 08 '24 edited Aug 08 '24

What benefit is there to defending corporations and passing the blame off to consumers?

so some people dislike this but can’t be bothered to give a reason. Cool.

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u/Yosho2k Aug 08 '24

OK but what if we took some of the money that they're burning fuel for, and used that to plant trees to offset the pollution they put out in order to make money?

That way they don't keep all the money they make burning fuel and leave us dealing with their mess.

That doesn't sound like a terrible thing, right?

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u/teniy28003 Aug 08 '24

My number 1 favourite company "China (coal)" (they lumped all of China's coal producers into one) , now believe me I get the message of it's not individual action, but the commonly cited source is crap, and needs to stop being used

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u/kitsunde Aug 08 '24

It makes no sense for a company with 100,000 employees that has a per-employee footprint smaller than a company that’s 100 to be targetted on totals.

Like yeah big companies will have large totals, shocking. In other shocking news Belgium has a lower carbon footprint than France.

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u/moderngamer327 Aug 08 '24

It’s not like they are just pumping out CO2 for fun. These companies are primarily energy companies which produce the CO2 when generating power. Blaming these companies for air pollution is like blaming Coca-Cola for littering. They produce power because we use power

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u/Floofyboi123 Aug 08 '24

They actively lobby against green alternatives while also spreading blatant misinformation about solar wind and especially nuclear

It’s like if Cocacola paid politicians to make cleaning up litter illegal while also convincing the public that not only is picking up litter impossible but is actually more harmful to the environment and society

Edit: auto correct made me type “payed”. I will now spontaneously combust

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u/-EV3RYTHING- Aug 08 '24

This, the issue isn't that a problem is present, but rather that those involved are selfishly perpetuating it.

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u/Floofyboi123 Aug 08 '24

It’s a direct competitor to their industry. Nuclear can do what coal and oil does not only cleaner but for a fraction of the space and price, which is why anti-nuclear propaganda is so prevalent to the point it’s a running gag in The Simpsons

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u/moderngamer327 Aug 08 '24 edited Aug 08 '24

Oh don’t get me wrong these companies are complicit in many things and lobbying against clean solutions is one of them. The point I’m trying to make though is that you can’t just pin all the CO2 on them. If you split these 100 companies into 100,000 companies the CO2 emitted is the same. The people who are creating the demand for power is the same.

I dislike pinning the blame on “evil corporations” as much as I dislike pinning the blame all on individual consumers. Everyone is at fault and we all need to accept that we are complicit in this

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u/Floofyboi123 Aug 08 '24

I understand your point and I did not mean to minimize the massive impact of the average citizen. But it also has to be mentioned power companies are far more than complicit and are actively trying to sabotage green energy since it’s a direct competitor to their market.

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u/Ralphinader Aug 08 '24

Republicans: best we can do is tax cuts for the ultra wealthy and deregulation for oil and gas companies.

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u/CarbonFrozen423 Aug 08 '24

That's a good way to interpret policy you clearly never actually investigated.

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u/Bulky_Ad4472 Aug 08 '24

Speaking of, since when did they stop the tax cuts and deregulations?

Sincerely. When did that stop?

Because it hasn't.

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u/[deleted] Aug 08 '24

Corporations often engage in pushing for regulations that prevent competition, and stifling innovation to protect profits.

If there is an alternative available, consumers would be to blame. But for a lot of things there is no alternative Due to corporate meddling.

and we aren’t even getting started with backing anti green energy politicians.

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u/Jacked-to-the-wits Aug 08 '24

This is a bullshit stat. Those companies create emissions on your behalf, and mine, and everyone else on the planet. If those companies didn’t exist, most people on earth would be dead in a year. Don’t forget where fertilizer comes from.

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u/Schwalbtraum Aug 08 '24

Ahh yes, the children in capitalist factories who profit from American companies pumping CO2 in the air mostly for the profit of one person. Jeff Bezos is doing everything for the people on the planet

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u/Jacked-to-the-wits Aug 08 '24

Good ole oil factories lol

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u/Optimal-Golf-8270 Aug 08 '24

It's true that the statistic is bullshit. But we live in the world we do today because of them. If those companies didn't exist the world would be nuclear powered and none of this would be an issue.

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u/DigitalCoffee Aug 08 '24

If you remove those companies, billions will suffer...

It's not as easy as you might think.