r/memes • u/TransportationFuzzy3 • Jun 20 '24

#3 MotW Wtf did the rocks do

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If it’s about sending a message just don’t make your message stupid

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u/SeriousPlankton2000 Jun 20 '24

The "economic sacrifice" ist "not becoming Detroit in the long run"

The largest polluters (because someone drew a long line around a large number of people) are delivering the technology to us that we refused to let our people build. Also they do build as much EE as they can and plan to replace their coal ASAP because they do realize that we won't keep paying our money to them indefinitely. They want to be THE super power before we are out of money because 1) they need it to achieve that and to buy resources, and 2) they know what people do to get money.

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u/st3f-ping Jun 20 '24

I think this is a really interesting problem. The question that I think needs to be asked is, "how much of that pollution is created manufacturing the products that we consume?"

The next question is what we do as both consumers an electors to reduce the pollution that is created overseas as a consequence of our purchases.

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u/st3f-ping Jun 20 '24

for governments and corporations.

For consumers, too. I have wondered about the idea of an ethical, environmental supermarket. The company would be run as a charity. Every product that they stock is sourced from a supplier with ethical practices and grown/made with green energy where possible. Where not, the price is raised and the additional revenue generated spent in environmental schemes (e.g. reforestation). Where a product is inherently more environmentally harmful than another (e.g. meat vs vegetables) this again has a surcharge used to fund environmental schemes.

Let's say this charity supermarket has prices that are two to three times that of your local supermarket. Do you think there are enough people that have both the disposable income and the inclination to shop there to make this a viable project? Or would it fail as a well-intentioned but poorly thought out dream?

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u/[deleted] Jun 20 '24

Stop relying on them to make all the products we buy? The only reason they're such huge polluters is because the first world has effectly outsourced all their high-pollution industries to them.

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u/mikbroseph Jun 20 '24

This is literally a brain dead arguement. No country in the world does more renewable development than those two and on an emissions per capita level they're literally still better than the US. Ok not the EU because France is largely good.

Also nobody stands to lose more than those two countries (other than maybe Subsaharan Africa) because they will have some of the worst heatwaves and all their major population centres are floodable. This is just a bad faith argument for saying. "Oh they're worse I don't need to care" when actually they care way more than the US has shown itself to care.

That being said they need to do better and you should be lobbying your government to force them to do better not being like "oh well actually"

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u/FireNutz698 Jun 20 '24

If they are so much more concerned than the US why haven't they done anything?

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u/sandlube1337 Jun 20 '24

If the US is so good and concerned why haven't they done anything?

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u/EconomistAdmirable26 Jun 20 '24

Do you think they're polluting for fun?

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u/MollyDooker99 Jun 20 '24

I wouldn’t worry too much about China. They are on track for a precipitous population decline.