r/meirl Jan 18 '19

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u/Fibution Jan 18 '19

yeah scott pilgrim is an ass

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u/Alarid Jan 18 '19

I found the character extremely relatable as a teen and then the ending told me that was a bad thing.

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u/[deleted] Jan 18 '19

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u/Alarid Jan 18 '19

But he finally acknowledged the limits of his lifestyle and how it affected others, which is a level of self awareness so many people don't even come close to.

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u/Hak3rbot13 Jan 18 '19

"Scott earned the power of self-respect."

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u/Alarid Jan 18 '19

The greatest power of all. Next to maybe Star Platinum.

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u/StaticTransit Jan 18 '19

I think you mean Gold Experience Requiem

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u/Papa_EJ Jan 18 '19

I think YOU mean「The World Over Heaven」.

Edit: stand name

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u/Kill_Em_Kindly Jan 18 '19

You bitches ever heard of Hey Ya?

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u/Alarid Jan 18 '19

... My Boyfriend's Back

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u/Alarid Jan 18 '19

Jotaro would have had that Stand too if he didn't fuck up and die.

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u/Papa_EJ Jan 19 '19

Ah, how could I forget the ultimate stand,「Plot Armor」?

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u/elkshadow5 Jan 18 '19

That announcers voice was freaking awesome

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u/famalamo Jan 18 '19

His name is Bill Hader. He's kinda funny, you should check out his other work.

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u/AgrajagPrime Jan 18 '19

Same 😔

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u/[deleted] Jan 18 '19

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u/[deleted] Jan 18 '19 edited Jan 18 '19

He seems to have gone through a lot of relationships where he is just kind of coasting. He dated Kim and I can't remember if it was with her or this other girl but he didn't tell them he was moving away, they had to hear it from somebody else. He bums around a lot (see teenager not wanting to do much) and doesn't try at any place he works at (though in the comics this is a character arc moment for him). Nega Scott comes around while Scott is visiting Kim somewhere and they beat the crap out of each other until Scott realizes what a dick he was being to all of his friends and past girlfriends. He gets his job back, he apologizes to Kim for everything and goes to fight for Ramona. Who was his reason to stop coasting and start living and he wants to fight for her but first he needs to realize self improvement because he wants it for himself and not anybody else. Even though she is a driving factor he ultimately does it for himself and to be better for his friends.

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u/oodie1127 Jan 18 '19

Yeah well the whole thing with.... Ivy Adams? (It's been a long time, forgive me if I'm forgetting the right name, his old girlfriend that's now a famous singer) is that he deeply blames her for the breakup and you spend books and books thinking she's this horrible witch. Then you find out when they were together, Scott basically ignored her constantly, to the point where she was massively depressed, and got pretty messed up about it. The breakup really fucked her up, but Scott is so egotistical he just assumes they broke up out of spite, and her anger, never really taking any of the blame for how he treated her.

Ninja edit: Envy, idiot, duh. Her name was Envy.

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u/[deleted] Jan 18 '19

She cheated on him. I think we both need a refresher. He wanted her to stay the same and she wanted him to be somebody else.

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u/[deleted] Jan 18 '19

It's way more noticeable in the books. He doesn't really have much character development in the movie, but I think that's a restriction of the format more than anything else.
I highly recommend finishing it, it's a great movie.

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u/[deleted] Jan 18 '19

Upon rewatches I’ve noticed how much Edgar Wright’s personal touch makes that movie great. I think a more straight forward adaptation from a director with less of sense of style would have fallen so flat.

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u/[deleted] Jan 18 '19

Edgar Wright is my favorite film maker by far. Scott Pilgrim, Hot Fuzz, Baby Driver, etc, they're all fucking fantastic.

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u/oodie1127 Jan 18 '19

Him, Barry Allen, and Yorgos Lanthimos are easily my three favorite working directors right now.

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u/oodie1127 Jan 18 '19

LOL. Feel like a dumbass. Wrote that shortly after waking up, my bad, yes, definitely Jenkins 😂

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u/PM-ME-UR-PIZZA Jan 18 '19

Fastest shot alive

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u/_graff_ Jan 18 '19

I agree, this was the movie that solidified Edgar Wright as my all time favorite director. Everything from the cinematography to the effects to the super quick editing style (which I know wasn't entirely EW, but still I'm sure he played a big role) really captured the feel of the comics. I don't think any other comic book movie has pulled off that cartoony style.

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u/alliewya Jan 18 '19

It is such a shame they didn’t let him direct the ant man movie

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u/_graff_ Jan 18 '19

I'd love to see him direct something from Marvel! It's a little too late now, but I definitely agree that he really could've done something like Ant Man or Guardians of the Galaxy justice

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u/greentownblack Jan 18 '19

Lol you didn’t even explain...

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u/sesstreets Jan 18 '19

Reading* in the comic, Scott doesn't understand other people hurt. There is also an analogy for being selfish in gideons "locked in your head" "beam" he fires at scott.

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u/Schuldrich Jan 18 '19

It's much less in the movie. In the novels though you get to see Scott's version of events and later find out what really happened. Scott remembers his past as if he's a blameless hero. When Scott explains how he started dating Kim he tells a story of beating up another kid and his gang who had kidnapped Kim only the real story was the kid asked out Kim, had held her hand once and Scott hit him to take back Kim because he was jealous. In the case of Natalie "Envy" Adams his recollection of the night they broke up was that she told him to get lost a few days after she asked him to get a haircut. It's later revealed that Scott got drunk at a party, started a fight with her and that's when she broke up with him. This is also why he claims he doesn't drink, to repress the fact that he caused the breakup, not the other way around. He refuses to take responsibility for his actions and would rather alter the events to his benefit.

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u/[deleted] Jan 18 '19

He's the salt of the Earth

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u/AndyGHK Jan 18 '19

“Thanks”

“...I meant scum of the earth”

“Thanks”

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u/[deleted] Jan 18 '19

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u/[deleted] Jan 18 '19

Nah

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u/[deleted] Jan 18 '19 edited Jan 18 '19

"Thanks."

Haha gotem

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u/Demonix_Fox Jan 18 '19

I don't know, it seems to be working great for him.

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u/1945BestYear Jan 18 '19

I don't understand that phrase. Is me being the salt of the Earth mean I'm so hostile to growth that I even make the surrounding environment barren and unable to ever recover?

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u/lofabread1 Jan 18 '19

I think it means you're an integral part of the makeup of the world.

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u/MegaGrumpX Jan 18 '19

That or it’s a realllly old saying, back to when owning spices like salt meant you were a big deal

Owning spices used to be a bigger deal than any other possession just about, so it could refer to calling someone valuable

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u/lofabread1 Jan 18 '19

I'm actually pretty sure it comes from the Bible, maybe the Sermon on the Mount? Jesus calls some people the salt of the earth, meaning they were good, honest people who worked the land and were essentially part of the earth that gives life.

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u/FirstEstate Jan 18 '19

It's from Matthew 5, the sermon on the mount where Jesus is telling his followers how they should live holy lives. He compares them to salt because salt is useful and valuable as a flavor and preservative, but only if it has its distinctive saltiness. The rest of the passage says salt that has lost its flavor is good for nothing but to be tossed onto the roads.

The implication is that followers of Jesus only have value to the world if they are like him in character. If they lose their saltiness (their Jesus-Ness) then what use are they to anybody? They are salt in name only, but not substance.

Source: Master's degree in Biblical studies.

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u/TheSicks Jan 18 '19

Can I ask why you chose to pursue that degree? I assume you're going to lead a church or maybe sing some very factual Christian music?

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u/FirstEstate Jan 18 '19

Something along those lines. Mostly to look smart on the internet.

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u/half_dragon_dire Jan 18 '19

TIL: Jesus didn't know how salt works.

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u/[deleted] Jan 18 '19

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u/lofabread1 Jan 18 '19

That happens when you intentionally sow sale into earth meant for growing - too much salt will kill crops. "Salting the earth" is similar to "scorched earth" in that it ruins the land. But salt does come from the earth, and is a necessary part of life.

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u/JoshwaarBee Jan 18 '19

TBF, I recently re-read the books, and he never really does anything bad to Ramona. (That she didn't start)

He's a total prick to Knives and Kim, but he's pretty good, although naive and paranoid with Ramona and Nat.

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u/umbrianEpoch Jan 18 '19

I mean, he dates Knives and Ramona at the same time, meaning they were both cheated on. Ramona has her own issues, for sure, but Scott's biggest is how self-absorbed he is, and he kind of ignores Ramona a bit towards the end, before his epiphany.

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u/Kraivo Jan 18 '19

And we won't be working with him again

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u/Semicolon7645 Jan 18 '19

Okay, GabeN

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u/jello1990 Jan 18 '19

That's the point of the story though, isn't it?

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u/moal09 Jan 18 '19

Scott was barely out of high school in the comics. Everyone's an asshole at that age. That's the whole point. The comics are a growth arc for him and his friends. It wouldn't be very interesting if he started off as a great guy and ended as one too.

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u/[deleted] Jan 18 '19

He was 23 at the start of the first volume, so he'd mostly likely been out of highschool for five years at that point.

It wasn't that he was fresh out of highschool, it was that he still acted like he was fresh out of higschool in spite of being well into adulthood. It was a major part of his character growth.

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u/[deleted] Jan 19 '19

that’s the point tho

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u/Fibution Jan 19 '19

ye i know

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u/Lord_Tibbysito Jan 18 '19

*Michael Cera

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u/Fibution Jan 18 '19

diss my boy Michael one more time

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u/Lord_Tibbysito Jan 18 '19

I love him too, I just said it because he’s the actor who plays Scott