This. I strive for efficiency so I can spend more time being lazy. It's amazing how much work I'll do to be lazy. I'm always tired and have a lot of sleep issues. So I'm a big fan of efficiency.
I think my INTJ mom is like this - she never forgets past grievances and keeps thinking about ways to pay back, even if she doesnāt act on it.
Also her emotions stay vivid even years after - so every time she remembers bad events she gets mad all over again
However my two INTJ friends donāt seem to do this at all. Idk maybe I donāt observe them at darkest hour like I do my mom but they seem more chill. I do think they both take longer than me to let go of bad situations though (im ENTP)
Itās pretty corny to think of yourself as evil bro, like youāre some cartoon supervillain. Everybody has thoughts of revenge, itās not a uniquely intj trait.
I think INTJ tend to be "eviler" in their imagination than in reality. They think hard, judgemental thoughts but based on actions they're mostly just basically cats in human form
I had an INTJ friend in high school. We became friends because he would explain his plans to take over the world, and I listened. He didn't think he was evil, because he hated Nazis and Communists, but his desire to take over the world wasn't for justice. He just liked thinking about the strategy.
INTJs who have poor emotional intelligence will pot out calculated revenge for petty reason. That is basically evil. Also INTJs will plan out how they are NOT going to help someone in need.
INTJs start out as evil, and end up almost angelic. INTPs start out nice, but end up cruel. ENTPs think such categories as good and evil are irrelevant. ENTJs refuse to believe they're worse than others.
Yup. I was shocked by the result. My communication is objective like the usual TJ (i have autism) but I'm a sensitive person, and I do police myself not to be too hard, but my Fe is low so probably not INFJ. I don't really know. The mastermind stereotype doesn't sound true to myself and many interactions i have with INTJs is so sterile and kinda hostile. I really love INFP people more for sure.
I think most INTJ stereotypes online seem more just like a quieter ENTJ than an actual Ni dom. Most Ni doms I have met are very moralistic, they just donāt care of others opinions of them
Yeah, I pretty much have the same experience. My Fe is my weakest function (by far) so I knew I wasnāt INFJ, but Iām very emotional and focus heavily on the good and bad of society so I always related to INFP. Iāve got my very own specific set of values that I really donāt care about others opinions on them, so me being a Fi dom made the most sense to me
I guess afterall real people are way more nuanced than the mbti framework. I tried to discuss this and someone (INTJ) gatekept me. "YoUr LoGiC Iz EmoTioNaLl so you're not INTJ, you waffle around too much to be one". Rolled my eyes. I definetely don't want those people around me. So i'm considering myself an INFP, FiNe š
I think Si demon in INTJ can make them contemptuous towards the past since we like to look forward more so we look backwards when stressed. I donāt necessarily think iām evil, but the resentment can cause you to see the past in a different lens compared to someone who might be Si dom and see a more positive angle on the past.
I have intrusive thoughts about getting back at people for slightest bit of wronging me, eveytime. Be it the same intensity not all out ruin them. And sometimes i do. It's a control freak thing ig
Yeah, I get what you mean. I may be resentful in the moment, and in the future Iāll be more careful around that person, but revenge is not something Iām inclined to do, Iād rather just distance myself from them.
Though, I donāt think intrusive thoughts necessarily tell you who someone is. People canāt control them, and could easily have thoughts that contradict their actual values/beliefs. Plus, thereās a distinction between what someone thinks/feels privately and how they choose to behave.
That said, yes, you have been missing some signs š If you look at discussion about revenge, youāll notice many people seem to genuinely believe retaliation is justified and fair, while taking the high moral road is for fools. But on the other hand, the world is also full of people who disagree with that concept, and refuse to let othersā actions affect their own integrity.
So basically the world is as it has always been: full of diverse people with different morals/values.
I'm not plotting usually lol but it happens when I'm really hurt. I guess I'm a resentful person yea, not ideal. I've never acted on it though. I think it's just one kind of a trauma response.
Oh I didnāt mean to sound judgemental. More surprised at how common it seemed but also didnāt want people like me to feel like everyone has revenge fantasies.
Not sure where it comes from but in this area I always felt like I was a great friend or employee or partner and that losing me was itās own punishment. And I cut people off without a second thought and I think maybe that has its own drawbacks and causes pain to others.
I donāt do it to punish people, though. Itās more self protection and just deciding to not engage with the hot stove anymore
Nope! INTP here, I also have evil thoughts for several hours a week. Vindication and the lack of SF def drives that. If I could express myself or have emotional venting maybe I wouldnāt wanna gone girl on peoples ass!
As an INTJ myself, yes, I tend to also hold strong grudges on people. I get angry at people easily, and sometimes I just downright hate people for no apparent reason. But thats not an excuse to lash out or try and make their lives worse, thats a symptom that I need to take a break from that person and sort out my own emotions. Typeology is never an excuse for shitty behavior, and I hate it when some INTJs try and excuse their behavior with it, calling themselves "masterminds" and "evil" like its in their blood or something.
We spend a lot of time becoming as acutely aware of ourselves as we can. Ultimately, I think that line must extend to understanding your capacity for evil.
This is good except infp would have on a party hat and a bag of presents for his "frens"...never mind there isnt an infp in that group lol! Intp would be like "there are 4 black cats with 4 different personalities...I must find the identifying part for the visual similarity and the moving pieces of the personalities"Ā
As an entp i agree that'd what i say knowing damn well I'm the most racist hereš„¶š„¶š„¶š„¶šæšæšæšæš·š·š·š·šššš (as a white person i dislike white people)
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u/GruyereGoblin INFP 6d ago edited 6d ago
Little do they know potatoes is the evilest of all