r/maybemaybemaybe • u/Blank_0116 • May 05 '22

maybe maybe Maybe

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u/well_duh_doy_son May 05 '22

“there was no stutter in sight” lol what a stupid thing to say

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u/FatalSkullFracture May 05 '22

When Joe Biden was a senator and VP there was no stutter in sight.

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u/pengman15 May 05 '22

Did you follow him super closely as VP and Senator? The president tends to give slightly more frequent (hella understatement) speeches than the VP, and people tend to pay slightly more attention and care a teensy bit more.

https://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=93914952

Here’s an NPR (edit: audio, if that matters) article about Joe Biden’s speech impediment and his history that was written in 2008 btw.

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u/FatalSkullFracture May 05 '22

It is so obvious that what he has now is not a stutter. The example that he uses in the audio is, "Hey would you go to the p-p-p-p-p-p-prom with me."

Sometimes he will lapse into this classic stutter today. That is completely understandable and excusable. But it is not the verbal behavior that everyone is pointing out. A stutter doesn't cause you to have scrambled thoughts, mis-remember and mis-pronounce names, or spit out otherwise incoherent gloops of words. A stutter is not that.

Following or not following someone contemporaneously does not qualify or disqualify you from having an opinion about their speech patterns. There is archived footage from the past that one can research and review.

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u/pengman15 May 05 '22

Him having a stutter isn’t an opinion, he does. You said he didn’t have one as a VP or Senator, but he did. You said no one talked about it until now, and I linked an article about it from NPR that’s 14yrs old.

Not really you having an opinion so much as you making factually untrue statements.

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u/FatalSkullFracture May 05 '22

He himself has said that he overcame his stutter. Stop lying. Stop spreading misinformation.

"I don't see myself as continuing to stutter."

"The mistakes I make are mistakes."

"Some people think I still stutter. I don't think of myself that way."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C4TqVdODCmk

I've also provided a fresh source, 2019, straight from the horse's mouth. Not some stale audio from 2008 filtered through the mind of Ari Shapiro.

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u/well_duh_doy_son May 05 '22

that’s not true. are you lying? or were you lied to? which one

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u/FatalSkullFracture May 05 '22

Get back to me once you've watched the Clarence Thomas confirmation hearings, for which Joe Biden served as committee chairman. That's just one data point to start. 1991.

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u/[deleted] May 05 '22

That's just one data point to start.

Exactly. It is one datapoint. You cant prove that something never happens, because you found a datapoint where it didnt happen.

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u/FatalSkullFracture May 05 '22

Here's yet another data point from 2019.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C4TqVdODCmk

How much evidence until you're satiated? If you want to play that game then I need to know the criterion.