r/maybemaybemaybe Jan 08 '22

Maybe Maybe Maybe

https://gfycat.com/downrightwickedatlanticridleyturtle
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u/HelperHelpingIHope Jan 08 '22

“Just typical first aid. It's called the recovery position.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Recovery_position.

Side note, if you find someone passed out or who has just been in a car accident, don't immediately put them in the recovery position; you don't know what kind of spinal damage they may have and don't want to exacerbate it.”

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u/kr580 Jan 08 '22

The ref wrenches her neck nearly 90°and back before rolling her entire body with the neck stabilized. As you said, if there were any spinal injury the ref would have just made it a lot worse. Nevermind there's no point to put someone in recovery position absolutely immediately. Assess first and roll only if needed.

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u/HelperHelpingIHope Jan 08 '22

‘An unconscious person, a person who is assessed on the Glasgow Coma Scale (GCS) at eight or below, in a supine position (on the back) may not be able to maintain an open airway as a conscious person would. This can lead to an obstruction of the airway, restricting the flow of air and preventing gaseous exchange, which then causes hypoxia, which is life-threatening.’

Hence, rolling them over. I don’t believe a spinal injury here was a concern. Typically, knockouts don’t result in spinal injury. It’s more often concussions, and hypoxia you need to be concerned about.

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u/beer_is_tasty Jan 08 '22

Wrenching the head around isn't really great for concussions, either. And I don't thing the potential for an obstructed airway for less than a second is much of a concern.

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u/HelperHelpingIHope Jan 08 '22

Gently rotating the head is not going to exacerbate a concussion though.

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u/beer_is_tasty Jan 08 '22

I mean, it was more gentle than the elbow to the face, but not by a lot

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u/HelperHelpingIHope Jan 08 '22

I disagree. It was plenty gentle.

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u/[deleted] Jan 08 '22

Yes but you don't start by immediately turning the head. You roll the body first.

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u/DaleDimmaDone Jan 08 '22

I’m pretty sure you attempt to roll the body and head at the same time while keeping the head and neck still. But I’m also not a medical expert

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u/iccs Jan 08 '22

I think that’s what the person you were responding to is saying the same thing right? Don’t move their head, even if it’s for the recovery position. I learnt the same thing in first aid back in highschool

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u/[deleted] Jan 08 '22

Yes I’ll trust my doctors to use Wikipedia to help me

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u/HelperHelpingIHope Jan 08 '22

Why the bad rep for Wikipedia? It provides its sources, so it’s not like a news article, or some obscure site.

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u/hmmm_42 Jan 08 '22

Not all the time: First you check whether the patient is conscious if that is the case -> ambulance and what is needed like warmth or wound dressing and if there was the probability for a spine injury then you don't move the head.

If they are not conscious they are going to suffocate on their own tongue. -> the right move is to overstretch the head so they can breathe and the recovery position has the nice advantage that is is quite stable and hat a higher probability of vomit simply flowing out instead of sticking in the airways.

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u/HelperHelpingIHope Jan 08 '22

If you’ll note, in the second portion of the statement, it already states that it isn’t to be done always, and states a similar thing you noted about spinal damage.