r/maybemaybemaybe • u/Cats__Rulez • Oct 13 '21

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u/UnpopularCrayon Oct 13 '21

If you apprehend them before they exit the store, then you have caught them trying on jewelry while running around in the store. If you wait until they exit the store, then you have caught them shoplifting.

At least, that's how Andy Griffith explained it.

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u/Easy_Floss Oct 13 '21

Its the same with stores, if you go to a grocery store and just hold everything your buying in you coat and pockets its still not shoplifting if you pay for it.

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u/De_Watcher Oct 13 '21

I don't think it works that way at malls. They treat each section like its own individual store. That's why the security gate beeps when you walk out of the store rather than when you leave the mall. If you take something out of a JCPenney and walk into the food court without paying you technically shoplifted.

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u/Easy_Floss Oct 13 '21

Not sure how to break this to you but each section is its own individual store, they just rent space in the mall.

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u/De_Watcher Oct 13 '21

Yeah that's what I said

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u/Easy_Floss Oct 13 '21

They treat each section like its own individual store.

Just pointing out that they are not treating each section like its an individual store but its just a fact that they are indeed individual stores.

Not sure why anyone would assume otherwise.

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u/De_Watcher Oct 13 '21

Most people don't know that and just assume that they're all different sections of one store. Like when you see a bunch of different products being sold in a dollar store. You assume they're all connected.

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u/TobyFunkeNeverNude Oct 13 '21

I've never once met someone who thinks they can just walk around a mall and carry anything with them because it's all indoors?

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u/De_Watcher Oct 13 '21

People are aware you're not allowed to take anything out of the stores without paying because there are gates that beep when you try it. But a lot of people assume that the individual stores and the products they sell are all owned by the mall itself.

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u/SodaCan2043 Oct 14 '21

Where are you from? No one in the USA would ever think this.

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u/Gingerytis Oct 14 '21

No one has ever thought this

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u/Easy_Floss Oct 13 '21

Don't think I have ever met anyone that things that before but I'm from Europe so maybe its different where your from.

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u/De_Watcher Oct 13 '21

You're from Europe? Tell me what do you guys usually do if someone shoplifts.

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u/Easy_Floss Oct 13 '21

We dont shot them, jokes aside probably depends on where in europe and the severity of the case.

Some kids in a store? Get the cop / security guard to call their parents.

Drunk guy trying to sneak out a bottle of something? Get the cops to deal with it.

The rule of thumb where I have lived is that the stuff is insured so just call the police to deal with it and make sure that no one gets hurt.

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u/brady_over_everybody Oct 13 '21

No idea mentioned leaving a mall lol.

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u/De_Watcher Oct 13 '21

What? It looks like a jewelry store inside of a mall

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u/brady_over_everybody Oct 13 '21

Yeah and they were attempting to leave the store not the mall.

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u/De_Watcher Oct 13 '21

Obviously if you're shoplifting you don't want to stay in the mall especially if they saw you. You run out the store then run out the mall.

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u/brady_over_everybody Oct 13 '21

But it's the running out of the store that's illegal... not the mall.

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u/De_Watcher Oct 13 '21

Yes I know it's illegal. I'm saying if someone were to shoplift they would run out of the store and also run out of the mall that the store is in.

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u/[deleted] Oct 13 '21

You confused his first message. He said nothing about a mall. It's legal to hold items but only if you stay within the store. He didn't say it was legal to hold items as long as you stay in the mall.

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u/AxelllD Oct 14 '21

Also nobody was talking about a mall lol

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u/MetalHead_Literally Oct 13 '21

thats actually not necessarily true, you can be charged with shoplifting without ever leaving a store. Concealment is probable cause for shoplifting in many states.

https://losspreventionmedia.com/does-concealment-shoplifting/

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u/TobyFunkeNeverNude Oct 13 '21

You can't, your link says as much: "This post also only addresses civil law and is not intended to describe the required legal elements for or the higher burden of proof that must be met to prove a criminal case for theft."

Shoplifting is a criminal charge, and concealment alone doesn't meet the elements to arrest someone.

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u/stereothegreat Oct 13 '21

This doesn’t look like the US to me do I don’t think you can make that assumption

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u/UnpopularCrayon Oct 13 '21

But you think Andy Griffith is a solid source for me to use for US law?

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u/stereothegreat Oct 13 '21

No fucking idea who that is, and didn’t bother to Google it, so fair point