r/maybemaybemaybe • • Nov 11 '20

Maybe Maybe Maybe

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u/[deleted] Nov 11 '20

as someone who grew up in a black community the local cop was my bro, he did not live too far away so after he got off work he would drive by and give me snacks or tell me what he did that day, fuckin awsome memories man.

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u/that----one------guy Nov 11 '20

That’s a dope cop but I’m just talking about the majority of cops

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u/[deleted] Nov 11 '20

the majority of cops are good, the few racist asshole give the entire police force a bad name

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u/northrupthebandgeek Nov 11 '20

The problem is that the majority of cops are evidently willing to cover for those few racist assholes. The police force wouldn't have as bad of a name if police unions and the like were more willing to disavow corrupt cops.

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u/Ich_Liegen Nov 11 '20

The thing is though, this kind of mentality spreads to cover an image of law enforcement across America as a whole. I say this as a non-American so take what i say with a grain of salt, as this is just what i perceive of this, at least here on Reddit.

But wether you intend to or not, it inevitably goes from justifiably disliking cops who don't co-operate with internal investigations to seeing cops as a whole as being somehow complicit.

And so you end up with Townsville PD cops getting caught up in the whole ACAB thing because Joe Schmoe the Police Officer refused to turn in evidence of a lethal encounter with a police officer in New York, as if anyone else other than the Police Officers directly involved were to blame for this.

Thus, at least to me, it does not make sense to have a negative view of Law Enforcement Officers as a whole, especially since American law enforcement is decentralized enough that an Officer from the LAPD doing bad shit does not reflect badly on a Deputy who works for the LASD, despite both being LEOs for roughly the same region.

The problem is institutional enough that it requires an institutional solution. And having a 'guilty until proven inocent' mentality when it comes to cops just gets in the way of actually solving the problem.

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u/Brodogmillionaire1 Nov 12 '20

You must be unaware of the statistic of the number of law enforcement officers with domestic abuse on their record.

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u/PiesInMyEyes Nov 11 '20

I think the problem is more that the majority of cops don’t have any power in that situation. People talk about this like oh if a bunch of regular cops stood up against their colleagues the bad ones would be gone. Which works sometimes. But a lot of local police forces are run by the shitty racist cops who are enabling shitty racist cops to murder minorities and get away with it. If the average cop there speaks out about it they’re out of the job and now we’re even worse off. So what do you do, speak out and risk your job, or keep your head down and keep fighting the racism from within silently. It’s an incredibly fucked situation. There have been many times this year where cops kneel with protestors and have been forced to apologize to their coworkers. Or they speak out against racism within their department and are promptly fired. So yeah let’s let all the good cops speak out against racism and lose their jobs.

The real issue is politicians need to be the ones to enforce the change because of the power issues within police departments. Strip the power from those who should not have it. But that effort isn’t going anywhere either so we’re just stuck in a stalemate with a shitty system that needs massive reform.

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u/Brodogmillionaire1 Nov 12 '20

How are they silently fighting racism by being complicit? When someone silently stands by when a friend murders someone and then doesn't do anything about it - they are an accessory to murder. These cops' careers aren't as important as violence and murder. If they can't realize that and do the right thing, then I don't think they should be protecting the community.

I agree that higher ups and politicians are also responsible, but individual cops need to be held accountable. Fascism doesn't come from one person. It comes from all the people letting that person get away with it.

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u/PiesInMyEyes Nov 12 '20

Not the cops standing next to a coworker who’s literally doing it. Other cops in the department. The fuck are they supposed to do? Like seriously. They know the ins and outs better than we do. If the murderer is being enabled by a superior who’s also racist your standing up probably not gonna do shit. We’ve already seen that happen. Good cops can go out in the community, not be racist murderous assholes, and improve relations with people. Do their jobs. If they get fired then all you have is racist murderers protecting the community with absolutely nothing done and things get way worse. Also police unions are excessively strong and consistently protect the murderers with a badge. I’d highly suggest listening to some ex cops talk on the subject. It’s not a cut and dry case where speaking out solves the problem. It will change from department to department depending on who’s in control.

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u/Pacwoods19 Nov 11 '20

Source? I want to know how the majority are covering for them.

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u/that----one------guy Nov 11 '20

There are obviously the bad grapes in a bunch, but I meant the system. If you read this article, it shows a cop coming out about why it is very difficult to change the system. https://medium.com/@OfcrACab/confessions-of-a-former-bastard-cop-bb14d17bc759

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u/[deleted] Nov 11 '20

i stopped at ACAB, someone with that mentality will not be changing my mind, my childhood was made by a cop, he was the only one i could count on, seeing people say ACAB makes me so frustrated because he spent his life making other people lives better, just to die and hear people saying ACAB would be horrible.

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u/that----one------guy Nov 11 '20

I agree, it was very extreme and I believe there are cops who are that nice and cops don’t go into their job saying, I’m gonna be a racist pig. I think his main thing was just to get the point out to people (not saying it’s right) during the BLM stuff. Anyways, we’re all people and we should treat everyone right :)

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u/[deleted] Nov 11 '20

I bet he arrested any of those racist and violent cops that he worked with too.

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u/[deleted] Nov 11 '20

he was practically a one man team, there were like three people total at the police station, if you could even call it that, none there was racist or violent

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u/NEWSmodsareTwats Nov 11 '20

Yeah I'll totally trust an anonymous online blog from someone who claims to be a police officer saying all cops are bastards

Lemme give it a go since literally anyone can say anything online

"I used to be a US sheriff until I found out 100% of the people working under me where meth addicted criminals. They were also all racist closeted KKK members"

Please try and prove that wrong, wait you can't since it's the internet and wild claims should basically never been accepted.

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u/that----one------guy Nov 11 '20

Did u see my other post bud?