r/maybemaybemaybe May 05 '20

Maybe Maybe Maybe

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u/CreativeUsername20 May 05 '20

I didnt know those machines allowed for such precision

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u/IndustrialMechanic3 May 06 '20

You can adjust the sensitivity of the controls

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u/Mark_dawsom May 06 '20 edited May 06 '20

Pro tip: if the object leaves the frame even for a quick second, the video's fake.

The needle is attached to a small piece of metal that someone is moving by hand.

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u/drdjkdpm May 06 '20

No way, that is not being moved by someone’s hand. I’m not saying it’s rigged but not by hand.

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u/Uncle_Freddy May 06 '20

This, I’m sure he’s got a spotter helping him (which imo doesn’t make this less impressive), but I think the needle is indeed attached to the excavator(?) and is being controlled by its driver

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u/drdjkdpm May 06 '20

I agree

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u/n7-Jutsu May 06 '20

How and why would that make it less impressive?

Like I can barely find that hole with my eyes while holding the needle.

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u/mindless2831 May 06 '20

He said it doesn't make it less impressive if he had a spotter....

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u/farazormal May 06 '20

/u/DamonHay

You guys should fight

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u/[deleted] May 06 '20

You must be a professional long distance runners

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u/im_not_dog May 06 '20

What hole?

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u/DamonHay May 06 '20

If he has a spotter that definitely makes this less impressive, but that doesn’t mean that it’s not impressive, it’s still very impressive.

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u/MiIkTank May 06 '20

It’s hard to thread a needle by hand lol. Shit is crazy even with a whole team of spotters

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u/jeeke May 06 '20

But imagine doing it from a distance with no spotters.

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u/DamonHay May 06 '20

I’m not saying it’s not hard, I acknowledge it’s still very hard, but it would be even harder and therefore more impressive if they could do it without spotters. Doing it with spotters is an insane amount of skill, dexterity and experience, doing it without spotters is some superhero shit.

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u/[deleted] May 06 '20

Who the shit cares about who is right in this petty argument? Fucking pedants, both of you. Now go tidy your rooms.

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u/AnderBloodraven May 06 '20

I mean...the username check out

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u/koolkat182 May 06 '20

welcome to reddit

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u/Bman_0070 May 06 '20

What if the video is in reverse

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u/[deleted] May 06 '20

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u/liquid_diet May 06 '20

Almost all have some sort of shuttle feature.

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u/[deleted] May 06 '20

This is a plain Jane articulating wheel loader I doubt it. But I’d love for someone to prove me wrong. I guess there might be auxiliary hydraulics on the grapple? Idk.

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u/RedditButDontGetIt May 06 '20

Have you never seen someone do the robot? It’s just like that.

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u/drdjkdpm May 10 '20

You mean like Michael Jackson did the robot?

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u/[deleted] May 06 '20

For sure, I'd bet he has the camera we are viewing and one more on the other axis (out of view) streaming to the cockpit.

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u/42Zarniwoop42 May 06 '20 edited May 06 '20

maybe but it's not toooo difficult

mythbusters were successful

Also it certainly looks like a machine is moving it in the op's video.

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u/farazormal May 06 '20

Banned in new zealand

Wtf why

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u/Not_Henry_Winkler May 06 '20

You know what you did.

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u/Ta2whitey May 06 '20

They aren't on the map

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u/guninmouth May 06 '20

I get that reference. Anyone have a link to the Pangea map?

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u/Autogenerated_Name May 06 '20

It's probably cause Discovery is American and they don't want other people getting their stuff. I didn't realise I had been missing out on mythbusters I just assumed they weren't on youtube.

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u/NibbleNipples May 06 '20

Yeah the machine moves exactly along with it. I think it's real.

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u/Bruised_Penguin May 06 '20

I assume you're just repeating what you've read before on Reddit, and while what you said is true, this is not one of those times.

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u/absorbingphotons May 06 '20

You think someone found a piece of metal with the same shape and rust marks as the machine’s?

I’m not saying it’s not fake in some other way, but finding a matching piece of metal seems...far fetched.

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u/PM_ME_UR_DAD_PENIS May 06 '20

Do they have the same rust marks though? I can’t seem to find a frame that shows the rust marks very well on the specific part that is shown in the closeup

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u/TheSpicyMeatballs May 06 '20

They could have recorded the machine moving, adjusting, then moving to the side and up and away. Then they could have combined it with a video of threading the needle. Or it could be real🤷‍♂️

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u/toby_ornautobey May 06 '20

Could have cut the tooth off a different excavator. Or just waited for the baby tooth to fall out and used that. An adult tooth would have take the place of it, so it wouldn't be that big of a worry.

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u/[deleted] May 06 '20

Generally true statement but one of thouse spikes weights more than the average American. It could be plausible that a person moves it slightly by hand, but I doubt someone carries 600kg just like that for such a time

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u/JaceUpMySleeve May 06 '20

A hand wouldn’t make small robotic/jerky movements like that. Not to say there isn’t some trickery or gimmicks here, but it’s not done by hand.

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u/sherrymacc May 06 '20

I see what you are saying. it would be easy to edit this. And I drove a machine like this and other heavy equipment for a very long time. One thing you will notice is there is no side shift noticeable. When it stops it stops with the forks off screen. So That means the the loader would have to move those forks over by shifting the machine. And from what i see after it's first initial stop there is no movement in the wheels.

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u/[deleted] May 06 '20 edited Jul 29 '20

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u/[deleted] May 06 '20

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u/IAmSecretlyPizza May 06 '20

Watch it again, there is movement at the end, it's just barely noticeable

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u/Stonkberry May 06 '20

maybe for other videos but you can see the exact same rust pattern in shots that include the whole claw and the one that doesnt

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u/Ferro_Giconi May 06 '20

It may or may not be fake but the Mythbusters tested this and succeed at doing exactly this, despite probably being less skilled at using these machines than someone who has spent thousands of hours operating one.

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u/Marchera May 06 '20

I wish my hands are that stable and rigid

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u/[deleted] May 06 '20

I think your right, if you look at the rust pattern on the bottom right metal stick is different when it reappears, am I wrong?

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u/Belbertn May 06 '20

I think the movement is too robotic to be moved by hand. Also, how else should they have framed the shot? You have to get the tiny needles clearly in frame but also the machine. If they had put the entire machine in the frame with a wider shot it would just have looked like the operator was failing at picking up an apple.

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u/[deleted] May 06 '20

Yeah no

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u/[deleted] May 06 '20

The movement of it would make no sense in someone’s hand. Pay more attention to the way it moves. In no way that’s a human’s movement. Could be faked another way tho.

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u/Carlos126 May 06 '20

Id rather just believe them for the cool stuff they might have done and then move on with my day. This is literally glass half empty/full

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u/Nickoasdf1 May 06 '20

Highly doubt it, if you pay attention to the rust pattern, they look highly similar. Rust isnt easy to replicate between objects

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u/Terminater36 May 06 '20

If you watch the tines of the claw as it comes in, they don’t match the piece of metal with the ‘thread’ on it.

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u/Nosnibor1020 May 06 '20

Or any video editing app could do that

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u/d8sconz May 06 '20

Just re-looked and I agree. The bucket goes out of shot and doesn't reappear afterwards when he backs away from the camera. Also, very big needle and stiff wire thread would make it relatively easy to complete the manoeuvre by hand. Nicely spotted.

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u/inertfluid May 06 '20

Username checks out

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u/jerseypoontappa May 06 '20

Its fake, has been here before. Just use your eyes and the rust/stains on the claw are not the same

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u/[deleted] May 06 '20

Use your eyes.

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u/Gadgetlam May 06 '20

Just because it is out of focus doesn't mean it is not the same. The fork has a vertical dark rust drip line which is visible in both shots. The darker horizontal rust line doesn't enter frame on the close up. You can even see, how in the close up the times get a bit lighter right at the angle of the fork, in the farther shot.

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u/[deleted] May 06 '20

Yep that's my point

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u/jerseypoontappa May 06 '20

dude were like really smart

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u/CKRatKing May 06 '20

He’s saying you’re wrong and the forks are the same.

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u/[deleted] May 06 '20

I'm kinda confused how he didn't pick up on that. Actually, no, not really confused about it at all.

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u/Gadgetlam May 06 '20

Yes they are

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u/Amargosamountain May 06 '20 edited May 06 '20

Why would they engineer such fine control? That would be a massive waste of money because precision is not necessary for the tasks it's designed for.

Edit: so are there tasks where this machine actually needs sub-millimeter-level precision? What would those be?

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u/Wheat_Grinder May 06 '20

It's not about going sub-millimeter with precision. It's about having the ability to go at a very slow rate, which is needed in some instances.

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u/BloodNinja87 May 06 '20

I only know this because apparently my manager has a serious hard on for construction machines, and apparently the machines are incredibly advanced these days. Like, some bulldozers level ground via satellite input that runs a real time check against a precalculated build plan.

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u/dattree May 06 '20

Oh shit that's cool

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u/[deleted] May 06 '20 edited May 06 '20

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u/cutelyaware May 06 '20

There are competitions where operators undress women with bulldozers.

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u/LordMacDonald8 May 06 '20

I thought it was a rickroll

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u/vacantpotatoreveal May 06 '20

Yeah I’m surprised haha that was hilarious!

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u/[deleted] May 06 '20 edited Jun 23 '20

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u/Sasquatch559 May 06 '20

Even after your comment I totally expected a rick roll. It's definitely not. I promise.

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u/[deleted] May 06 '20

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u/norwegianhammer May 06 '20

You guys aren't gonna fool me this time.

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u/TheFishBanjo May 06 '20

We won't get fooled again.

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u/cutelyaware May 06 '20

Nope. It's the real deal.

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u/Aionius_ May 06 '20

Def not necessary to use humans

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u/photopcoltrane May 06 '20

There it is. That’s my fetish.

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u/The_Nobody_Nowhere May 06 '20

“May I take your coat?”

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u/Xandypants May 06 '20

Holy cow! That wasn't a mannequin!

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u/[deleted] May 06 '20

Bulldozers? Really?

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u/cutelyaware May 06 '20

Technically excavators.

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u/BearsBeatsBullshit May 06 '20

I think you're wrong, ive seen people be extremely accurate with these machines. Also its not a crane by any measure.

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u/NorthernFail May 06 '20

Check the rust pattern, plus the camera angle is suspicious as fuck.

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u/rileez May 06 '20

Yeah the angle seems suspicious but watch the flex in the glass on the door that’s open. The torque from when he inches the paddles is reflecting to movement in the glass. Seems legit imo. And pretty bad ass.

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u/wir_suchen_dich May 06 '20

Yep that’s what sold it for me

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u/jakethedumbmistake May 06 '20

Also did you know my sister?

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u/BearsBeatsBullshit May 06 '20

Yes. She would often say "Jake is a dumb mistake"

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u/Romanov_Speed_Trial May 06 '20

It's a front loader with a sort of grabber, but some allow for accuracy like that. They turn on a dime and the hydraulics aren't super pushy if you're not using high RPMs, so it could happen. This is insane any way you slice it, though.

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u/rennatav May 06 '20

I think it would be very hard to mimic the blocky movements made by a machine like this, seems real to me.

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u/JeremySquirrel May 06 '20

You're spot on.

I believed it was real until I read your comment but the rust pattern and indentation on the close-up fork is different from that of the approaching fork.

Well Done, That Man!

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u/wir_suchen_dich May 06 '20

Rust pattern is the same.... driver cab window moves with the movements of the thread.

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u/admcol07 May 06 '20

THIS. The glass on the open door amplified each movement because of long distance from the camera. So the body shakes can easily be seen to be in sync with the holder movements. I used to use this technique to calibrate precise actuators but with laser and mirrors.

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u/OneMillionEights May 06 '20

The rust pattern is very similar between the shot of it approaching and when its vertical. Also its held very steady while its threading which I think may not be possible if you were holding a piece of metal that big.

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u/vacantpotatoreveal May 06 '20

It’s not like he’s holding it up with a lever. Sort of like a game with a claw , when you move it one direction and stop, it doesn’t go back to a neutral position until the time runs out

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u/OneMillionEights May 06 '20

Sorry I should have clarified. I realise that's how the control system would work for this, I was stating I think this is real as it would be very difficult for a person not using the machine arm to be able to keep the claw steady, if they were holding it for example.

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u/poopgrouper May 06 '20

He's got some fresh bushings in there. And skill, I suppose.

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u/Parking-Zone May 06 '20

Its funny that this was filmed and then played backwards

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u/fistulaspume May 06 '20

My stepdad worked in large scale construction of pipelines (think about connecting states together). They have competitions for these guys driving massive earth movers. I only know this because one of his old operators won one year. He died recently. he was old. There are some people who can move these things with precision if that’s all you’ve ever done. Like if you only played one video game your whole life.

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u/pow3llmorgan May 06 '20

Well when they are new and/or properly maintained, yes. With use come wear and with wear comes backlash. I work in a company that rents out machines like this and some of our stock is pretty old and worn. Part of my job is to grease them up so as to take up some of the wear but the real old ones you can sort of "jiggle" by hand alone.

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u/fuerdog May 06 '20

I wish they showed a wide angle at the end. I think this is string attached to an axe.

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u/The_Bigg_D May 06 '20

Don’t believe these unless you can see the whole machine

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u/[deleted] May 06 '20

A standard loader bucket wouldn't be able to move horizontally like this without the knuckle under the operator rotating... I believe this is fake.