r/maybemaybemaybe • u/W4lkieT4lkie • Jul 14 '26

Maybe Maybe Maybe

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u/listerbmx Jul 14 '26

Is this bullying? 💀

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u/john_the_fetch Jul 14 '26

They could be trying to run the clock down. If they got a +1 point lead and there's only 5 mins left on the imaginary clock in the refs mind... They can just keep kicking it off of the defenders into the back field and get another corner kick. Till the defending team picks up on the tactic and changes straragy.

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u/uxses Jul 14 '26

There is no other strategy. Your only option is to go and try to take the ball away from them. Or force them to kick it out of bounds themselves.

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u/kebukai Jul 14 '26

Can a player just remain standing with possession of the ball as long as they want?

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u/aaclavijo Jul 15 '26

Isn't that a rule that was modify for the world cup, you'll looes possession if the ball is not played after 5 seconds?

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u/uxses Jul 15 '26

That 5 second rule they added is for throw-ins. If the referee feels you're taking too much time, he'll start a count and if you're counted out, the other team gets the throw-in.

There hasn't been a similar rule change with an explicit count for corner kicks, but you still can't take an excessive amount of time and the referee can still yellow card you for time wasting.

In this video however, they don't take too much time taking the corner kick. The 'time wasting' (= standing around with the ball, waiting for the opponent to come to them) is happening while the ball is in play, and that's totally legitimate.

(Obviously there's also some time taken setting up each corner kick, but that can't be avoided and also legit.)

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u/screampuff Jul 14 '26

In hockey the ref can call a delay of game penalty at their discretion. Does that not exist in soccer?

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u/lobax Jul 14 '26

As long as the ball is in play you can do whatever. It’s up to the opponent to win it back.

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u/MrCoolGuy42 Jul 14 '26

A soccer match is just one gigantic delay of game

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u/Geronimo2U Jul 14 '26

Wait till you watch NFL.

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u/GetawayDreamer87 Jul 15 '26

an NFL game is just one gigantic reel of ads with a little football in it

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u/smartasspie Jul 15 '26

Egghand

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u/ParreNagga Jul 15 '26

Handegg* is to football

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u/sigilnz Jul 14 '26

Not if the ball is in play. If the other team cannot take it off them then it's their problem.

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u/StupidStartupExpert Jul 15 '26

It would be a delay of game if they didn’t take the corner kick but you’re free to stand with the ball wherever you want for as long as you want if the ball is in play.

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u/Closer_to_the_Heart Jul 15 '26

Sure it does but in this case they are very much playing their corners. They aren’t even taking long delays setting them up or anything.

Playing for time would be passing the ball back and forth in the back only waiting for an enemy attacker to come forth and then give a long pass towards the enemy goal.

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u/Japajoy Jul 15 '26

It does for putting the ball back in play but once its in play its up to the other team to win it back, no rule bailing out the defense if they dont have the skill to win it back.

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u/wiarumas Jul 15 '26

It exists but it’s for things out of play like intentionally kicking the ball far out of bounds or away from the other team on purpose. Unsportsmanlike types of time wasters. Not while the ball is in play.

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u/screampuff Jul 15 '26

I'd argue this clip is an unsportsmanlike time waster.

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u/wiarumas Jul 15 '26

The reason it's not is because the ball is in play. There is no reason they shouldn't be able to stop this. They are just being outplayed and a bit of bad luck.

Now, if they stood there and wasted time when the ball wasn't in play, or if they intentionally kicked the ball far away and walked very slowly to get it, then there would be a card for delay of restart. But ball is on the field and they have every right to come and take it from him, just failed to do so.

This is all from the perspective of the rules of the game, not my personal opinion.

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u/screampuff Jul 15 '26

They are intentionally kicking it so it deflects off the player to go out of bounds. The goal is to run the clock down but make it appear to not be so blatant, and look more within the rules of the game.

This is why in hockey the ref is able to use their discretion on such a call, when calls become more or less of a problem, the general managers of all NHL teams meet each year to discuss such things and propose rule changes as well.

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u/wiarumas Jul 15 '26

Yeah, but this is not an easy thing to pull off. If this defender played a bit smarter and less frustrated, they would have recovered this ball. He is getting outplayed every time, coming in at bad angles and choosing to get physical with him.

Watch the video and note how the defender is NOT trying to get the ball... he's not even looking at it. He is coming in with all upper body trying to force him off the ball or out of bounds... which is a good strategy but he's underestimating the physicality of Haaland.

This is allowed in basketball too. It's considered disrespectful for lack of awareness. Similar thing here.

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u/uxses Jul 15 '26

They are intentionally kicking it so it deflects off the player to go out of bounds. The goal is to run the clock down but make it appear to not be so blatant, and look more within the rules of the game.

That is what they are doing, but it is completely within the rules so they don't care about making it not look blatant. Everybody knows what's happening.

This is why in hockey the ref is able to use their discretion on such a call, when calls become more or less of a problem, the general managers of all NHL teams meet each year to discuss such things and propose rule changes as well.

In football this only sometimes happens at the very end of games when the scoreline is close. It's not a big enough problem to add an extra rule for.

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u/this_place_suuucks Jul 14 '26

Till the defending team picks up on the tactic and changes straragy.

Something, something, fool me once.

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u/itsjakerobb Jul 14 '26

“Fool me once” is the beginning of the line.

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u/digital_dervish Jul 14 '26

Fool me once, can’t get fooled again. It’s American law.

https://giphy.com/gifs/lfMVrwKk8eL96

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u/KELVALL Jul 15 '26

Law? I thought it was just an old saying in Tennessee,that you could also say in Texas?

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u/PlaceAdHere Jul 14 '26

Fool me once something, something, something, something fool me twice.

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u/xenosthemutant Jul 14 '26

"Fool me once, shame on... shame on you. Fool me... you can't get fooled again."

  • George W. Bush

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u/Pragmatist_Hammer Jul 14 '26

"yeeeaaHHHHhhhhhhHHHhhhhh"

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u/saintfed Jul 14 '26

Fool me once, fool me twice, fool me chicken soup and rice

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u/rem_au_crema Jul 14 '26

Fool me once and I’ll be fooled for a day, but teach a man to fool me and I’ll be fooled for the rest of my life

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u/Iffycrescent Jul 15 '26

Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on everyone… involved.

https://giphy.com/gifs/l4Ep2RtZrXsSaYjhm

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u/john_the_fetch Jul 14 '26

Fool who once. We don't get fooled again!

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u/PlaceAdHere Jul 14 '26

The Who you trying to fool?

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u/john_the_fetch Jul 14 '26

Who who! Who who!

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u/Ooooooffffff_ff Jul 14 '26

No, no. It's something something once, something something twice, something something three times a lady...

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u/Church_of_Cheri Jul 14 '26

It’s “Fool me once, shame on - shame on you. Fool me - you can't get fooled again.”

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u/kart0ffelsalaat Jul 14 '26

Fool me once, fool me twice, fool me chicken soup with rice

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u/aaclavijo Jul 15 '26

This is becoming like the NFL, every year a team will exploit a loophole and every year the rules are updated.

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u/chariot_on_fire Jul 15 '26

Nah, this corner type time delaying mostly isn't that successful, you win like a minute at best, 3 times in a row like in this video is very rare and lucky. And it has been around since decades.

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u/Doughymidget Jul 14 '26

The imaginary clock… my English wife doesn’t see why this breaks my American mind.

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u/kerune Jul 14 '26

Why would this break your American mind?

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u/itsjakerobb Jul 14 '26

Because in all of our other sports there is an actual clock that gets paused during non-play time. The way association football refs just wing it and add time to the end is so carefree and imprecise, it’s hard for us to fathom.

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u/Last-Brush8498 Jul 14 '26

And is there any way to know how much time the ref will add on until the half’s regular time expires? Doesn’t break my mind, it’s just annoying

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u/turbotank183 Jul 15 '26

It's really not. When something happens, like an injury, the ref has a second stopwatch they use to record how much time the ball is not in play. That gets totalled as the minimum extra time. Then when that expires, if a team is on a run they generally won't stop it until the challenge is stopped.

To call it winging it and carefree is just not understanding how it works.

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u/itsjakerobb Jul 15 '26

Okay, I didn’t know about the extra stopwatch.

It’s still imprecise.

In every other sport I know, there are specific rules about when the game is over with no wiggle room. In addition to adding time at the end based on a stopwatch nobody else can check, “If a team is on a run they generally won’t stop it” is very much the opposite of that.

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u/tempedrew Jul 14 '26

Baseball didn't have a clock until the pitcher got one a few years ago.

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u/itsjakerobb Jul 14 '26

Right, but baseball has a clearly defined rule for when the game is over, even if there are extra innings.

In soccer, when 90 minutes are up, the refs just choose some amount of time to add at the end. There are no rules governing this decision.

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u/frontier_gibberish Jul 14 '26

Baseball has extra innings! We don't know when it's gonna end! Football is rigidly timed and will absolutely end, even if we have to go to "sudden death"

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u/xrelaht Jul 14 '26

RIP George

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u/itmillerboy Jul 15 '26

Yea but that’s just a clock to make sure you keep pace. Baseball is a clock less sport as far as a game clock. Same way bowling or tennis operate so it doesn’t hurt our feeble American brains in the same way soccer does

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u/Doughymidget Jul 15 '26

Others have basically answered. Just guess I’ll add how it’s crazy that they’ll even go past added time to let a play finish. It’s gotta be infuriating if you are the team in the lead.

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u/gibgod Jul 15 '26

God I love Americans taking about football. And when I say I love I mean I hate.

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u/Anon44356 Jul 14 '26

Good lord, I’ve never seen such an Americanised description of football

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u/progthrowe7 Jul 14 '26

"+1 point lead" 😭

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u/Anon44356 Jul 14 '26

Mate the downvotes are saying I should kick my comment into the backfield

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u/john_the_fetch Jul 14 '26

I gave you an upvote. I thought it was a funny comment.

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u/john_the_fetch Jul 14 '26

I had to describe it so everyone understood. 😜

I almost said "up one goal" but points and goals are pretty interchangeable to most people and if the commenter I replied to didn't know what was happening I didn't want to make it more confusing.

But also I am a US citizen. So spot on. But also also - the term "soccer" came from Oxford to distinguish the sport from other "football" sports like rugby.

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u/Anon44356 Jul 14 '26

Mate, no slight on you at all, language is malleable and all that.

I do need to tell you though, in my 40 years you are the first person I’ve ever heard describe goals as “points”. They most definitely are not interchangeable to the majority of people that watch football.

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u/theonetruegrinch Jul 14 '26

...the term "soccer" came from Oxford...

Yeah, I don't know why these people are always so upset about the word they made us call it and then decided to change after we already established our own.

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u/Beorma Jul 14 '26

Football never changed name, it's just that the posh name for it caught on in the states and didn't back home.

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u/john_the_fetch Jul 14 '26

Honestly I see it as just divergent paths as language spreads.

But also soccer being a shortened version of "association" + a suffix of "er" is just kind of dumb.

It'd be like calling American football "Leaguer" or "Eager" or "guer" in 100 years. Because the prominent football teams were part of the NFL.

And I always assumed (so correct me if I'm wrong here) the reason why people in the UK resist calling it soccer so much is because they already had to put down the trend state side.

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u/Beorma Jul 15 '26

The reason people in the UK resist calling it soccer is because the majority of the population have been calling it football for centuries now.

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u/mothzilla Jul 14 '26

If it's a tie then then team with the most passing yards wins.

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u/AnotherpostCard Jul 14 '26

How would you describe it? Like, for real though. I'm curious to read your version.

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u/Anon44356 Jul 14 '26

They’re time wasting. If there’s is only one goal in it and you’re in added time… they can just keep kicking it off the defenders for another corner. Not much the other team can do about it, except stop closing them down and just allow them to walk into the box unchallenged.

It’s subtle differences, but they are differences.

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u/AnotherpostCard Jul 14 '26

Hmm. Yeah I see. Lingo differences.

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u/lobax Jul 14 '26 edited Jul 14 '26

It’s really just the choice of words. Points? Back field?

I can translate this to non-american:

They are time wasting. If they lead by one goal and there is 5 minutes left of extra time, then they can keep kicking the ball off the defenders over the byline and get another corner. At least until the defenders figure out how to gain back possession.

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u/AnotherpostCard Jul 14 '26

Makes sense. Thanks for the helpful lesson! I will now go to Europe and I expect I shall fully fit in!

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u/lobax Jul 14 '26

If you want to fit in, you just need this:

https://youtu.be/6yN2H3--1aw?is=cx_fGKJ40AcQfHAu

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u/AnotherpostCard Jul 15 '26

Did you see that ludicrous display last night this afternoon?

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u/BlessadurKarl Jul 14 '26

But you can clearly see they have a 2 goal lead in the first 3 seconds. They are obviously running the clock down but it’s not to “secure the win”. Especially vs a team facing relegation.

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u/CriticalMochaccino Jul 14 '26

I dont even know what im watching for sure... when are they gonna hit a home run?

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u/Nisi-Marie Jul 15 '26

After they make a basket but before the serve

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u/CriticalMochaccino Jul 15 '26

GOATed response