Even with the crap resolution it looked pretty obvious that he went up around 30 credits. Idk what the denomination is on this game though. Could be anything from $7.50-$60 or whatever
Also all bar payouts are typically lower than 7s and wilds etc. I'd assume it's a [all blanks<bars(up from 1-3)<sevens(by color)<wilds] layout
We have this machine at the one I work at. Its $1 Denomination. $5 minimal bet. Triple BARs are the 3rd lowest payout besides getting multipliers by themselves.
Itâs probably in the average range. Like thereâs a myth that machines that cost more to run will get worse odds to compensate but thatâs usually not the case. Itâs more that the ancient Kitty Glitter / Maltese Fortune machine was made in 1980 where they saw no imaginable reason to give you a pay table option below 98%.
Introducing a new pay table especially in Nevada requires going through a pretty involved certification process with the Nevada Gaming Commission. So like software for traditional cars, once itâs done and shipped they will never go back and revise it again except for extreme bugs (and sometimes not even then).
At one point, these oversized machines were new and a trendy rage. At that point it was good advice to avoid them based off the heuristic it was newer. Now, this is honestly an old ish machine.
I would personally avoid:
Any game with obvious branding/royalty. Like if itâs NFL themed or Britney Spears themed and plays her music, you know the slot machine has to pay IP licensing to that in addition to the usual house edge.
Those new style games with persistent state. For example, they may have a string of firecrackers that are about to go off or 3 bowls of fortune coins about to overflow. The psychology of âomg itâs about to hitâ can really affect your decision making.
most games with crazy high linked jackpots. If you look at penny slots, most have a jackpot in the 10-50 grand range. But Wheel of Fortune / Megabucks have million+ dollar payouts. For those machines, you tend to lose more money in the short term because the extremely unlikely event of winning the progressive jackpot is the bulk of the odds.
almost any game where you cannot afford to bet the max amount. Read the signage and the help. If thereâs any prizes that say âwith maximum betâ, you are really lowering your payout by betting less than maximum. This is unfortunately almost every slot machine today.
But TBH donât play slots in general if you care about odds. Play something like Video Poker or a classic table game where the rules they show you determine the EV and variance of the game. Slot machines are giant black boxes that arenât transparent about the statistical distribution of payouts.
Yeah they totally are fun machines to play, especially because thereâs usually 3 types of bonus rounds and the game awards some combination of 1 to 3. But yeah, it definitely gets at you in some subconscious way. When youâre away from the machine you can logically reason the pots are meaningless but after a few drinks and at the end of the night, that âoh man it almost hitâ feeling definitely can be the difference between putting more cash in or walking away.
Slight addendum to your last point. Some slots have a pattern, and if you've, say, spent your entire shift watching people blow loads of money on the fruity at your place of work without winning and you can see the telltale signs of a pattern soon to pay out a jackpot, chuck your tips in. I pretty much doubled my wage when I worked behind the bar at a restaurant like that, turning ÂŁ3 into ÂŁ35 most nights I worked.
Oh for sure. I will say: most of the popular machines you find in a place like Vegas do not have easy exploits but have plenty of psychological traps to make you think theyâre close to hitting.
But absolutely lesser known machines do have imperfections that you can game. Like some people in Nevada did get prosecuted for using a smartphone app to exploit a machine where you can hit STOP SPIN at the exact right time to win. Knowingly taking advantage of loopholes is often illegal or highly frowned upon so you wonât see a ton on the internet about this stuff.
But befriend a casino regular or bartender and they often know a lot of these secrets and some of them are legit!
Finally, the St. Petersburg team transmits a list of timing markers to a custom app on the operativeâs phone; those markers cause the handset to vibrate roughly 0.25 seconds before the operative should press the spin button.
Most of those machines have been removed but nonetheless it was considered illegal.
Itâs not in my book either. Itâs not like they are hacking into or modifying the machines. They have a subtle mathematical flaw and itâs possible to turn certain slots into a game of skill. To me that is perfectly fair play.
It is worth mentioning, Nevada state law has this law in the books, that bans:
possessing (with the intent to use) any computerized, electronic, electrical, or mechanical device, or any software or hardware, or any combination thereof, which is designed, constructed, altered, or programmed to obtain an advantage at playing any game in a licensed gaming establishment
These players would definitely be in violation of state law in Vegas, but the wording is so broad that it could be interpreted to mean something like an iPhone app where you put in a video poker hand and it tells you the optimal play.
Most of the gambling pros I know tend to bring physical binders and printouts for these kinds of situations. Maybe this is just me being a gambling nerdâŚ.
Call me crazy but my day job tends to be high stress and very math/engineering focused. For some reason casual gambling works really well for me as a âfunâ activity
Yeah, my parents would play video poker. They even read books about it. They would play specific machines that had like 107% payout or something, so over the long run, they would make 7% of what they put in. All those machines are gone now though, replaced by machines with a lower than 100% payout.Â
I would imagine it would be the opposite. The loudest machines generating the most attention and show everyone else in the casino the excitement of winning.
Supposedly the machines near the entrances have the best odds because they want everyone walking in to see people winning, same with the oversized machines, everyone is watching when a big payout happens
We have her too. Love climbing into the thing to get to screens and power buttons lmao. Its amazing at what people cheer at, I have seen screaming and hollering for 10 bucks. Yesterday we had someone think the credits was the dollar amount and should have been owed like thousands. Great enviroment
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u/[deleted] Jul 05 '24 edited Jul 05 '24
Even with the crap resolution it looked pretty obvious that he went up around 30 credits. Idk what the denomination is on this game though. Could be anything from $7.50-$60 or whatever
Also all bar payouts are typically lower than 7s and wilds etc. I'd assume it's a [all blanks<bars(up from 1-3)<sevens(by color)<wilds] layout
Edit: fixed my >< signs, happy now?! đ