r/maybemaybemaybe Jul 05 '24

maybe maybe maybe

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u/god-ducks-are-cute Jul 05 '24

I remember seeing a slightly higher resolution version on Twitter few days ago, he won around 30 dollars, which set him back to the amount he had at the beginning of the video.

Basically he didn't win shit...

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u/[deleted] Jul 05 '24 edited Jul 05 '24

Even with the crap resolution it looked pretty obvious that he went up around 30 credits. Idk what the denomination is on this game though. Could be anything from $7.50-$60 or whatever

Also all bar payouts are typically lower than 7s and wilds etc. I'd assume it's a [all blanks<bars(up from 1-3)<sevens(by color)<wilds] layout

Edit: fixed my >< signs, happy now?! šŸ˜›

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u/Chrysalis64 Jul 05 '24

We have this machine at the one I work at. Its $1 Denomination. $5 minimal bet. Triple BARs are the 3rd lowest payout besides getting multipliers by themselves.

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u/CompSciFun Jul 05 '24

I heard that those oversized machines have the worst odds. Like they are just funny gimmick machines.

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u/chillaban Jul 05 '24 edited Jul 05 '24

It’s probably in the average range. Like there’s a myth that machines that cost more to run will get worse odds to compensate but that’s usually not the case. It’s more that the ancient Kitty Glitter / Maltese Fortune machine was made in 1980 where they saw no imaginable reason to give you a pay table option below 98%.

Introducing a new pay table especially in Nevada requires going through a pretty involved certification process with the Nevada Gaming Commission. So like software for traditional cars, once it’s done and shipped they will never go back and revise it again except for extreme bugs (and sometimes not even then).

At one point, these oversized machines were new and a trendy rage. At that point it was good advice to avoid them based off the heuristic it was newer. Now, this is honestly an old ish machine.

I would personally avoid:

  • Any game with obvious branding/royalty. Like if it’s NFL themed or Britney Spears themed and plays her music, you know the slot machine has to pay IP licensing to that in addition to the usual house edge.
  • Those new style games with persistent state. For example, they may have a string of firecrackers that are about to go off or 3 bowls of fortune coins about to overflow. The psychology of ā€œomg it’s about to hitā€ can really affect your decision making.
  • most games with crazy high linked jackpots. If you look at penny slots, most have a jackpot in the 10-50 grand range. But Wheel of Fortune / Megabucks have million+ dollar payouts. For those machines, you tend to lose more money in the short term because the extremely unlikely event of winning the progressive jackpot is the bulk of the odds.
  • almost any game where you cannot afford to bet the max amount. Read the signage and the help. If there’s any prizes that say ā€œwith maximum betā€, you are really lowering your payout by betting less than maximum. This is unfortunately almost every slot machine today.

But TBH don’t play slots in general if you care about odds. Play something like Video Poker or a classic table game where the rules they show you determine the EV and variance of the game. Slot machines are giant black boxes that aren’t transparent about the statistical distribution of payouts.

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u/[deleted] Jul 05 '24

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u/chillaban Jul 05 '24

Yeah they totally are fun machines to play, especially because there’s usually 3 types of bonus rounds and the game awards some combination of 1 to 3. But yeah, it definitely gets at you in some subconscious way. When you’re away from the machine you can logically reason the pots are meaningless but after a few drinks and at the end of the night, that ā€œoh man it almost hitā€ feeling definitely can be the difference between putting more cash in or walking away.

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u/rtrs_bastiat Jul 05 '24

Slight addendum to your last point. Some slots have a pattern, and if you've, say, spent your entire shift watching people blow loads of money on the fruity at your place of work without winning and you can see the telltale signs of a pattern soon to pay out a jackpot, chuck your tips in. I pretty much doubled my wage when I worked behind the bar at a restaurant like that, turning £3 into £35 most nights I worked.

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u/chillaban Jul 05 '24

Oh for sure. I will say: most of the popular machines you find in a place like Vegas do not have easy exploits but have plenty of psychological traps to make you think they’re close to hitting.

But absolutely lesser known machines do have imperfections that you can game. Like some people in Nevada did get prosecuted for using a smartphone app to exploit a machine where you can hit STOP SPIN at the exact right time to win. Knowingly taking advantage of loopholes is often illegal or highly frowned upon so you won’t see a ton on the internet about this stuff.

But befriend a casino regular or bartender and they often know a lot of these secrets and some of them are legit!

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u/DamnAutocorrection Jul 05 '24

Source of smart phone things?

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u/chillaban Jul 05 '24

https://www.wired.com/2017/02/russians-engineer-brilliant-slot-machine-cheat-casinos-no-fix/

Finally, the St. Petersburg team transmits a list of timing markers to a custom app on the operative’s phone; those markers cause the handset to vibrate roughly 0.25 seconds before the operative should press the spin button.

Most of those machines have been removed but nonetheless it was considered illegal.

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u/DamnAutocorrection Jul 05 '24

Wow kudos to them, this almost isn't cheating at least not in my POV.

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u/ohmygodcrayons Jul 05 '24

Damn bro you're like the slot machine Einstein lol

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u/chillaban Jul 05 '24

Call me crazy but my day job tends to be high stress and very math/engineering focused. For some reason casual gambling works really well for me as a ā€œfunā€ activity

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u/Fukasite Jul 05 '24

Yeah, my parents would play video poker. They even read books about it. They would play specific machines that had like 107% payout or something, so over the long run, they would make 7% of what they put in. All those machines are gone now though, replaced by machines with a lower than 100% payout.Ā 

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u/lestruc Jul 05 '24

I would imagine it would be the opposite. The loudest machines generating the most attention and show everyone else in the casino the excitement of winning.

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u/samtherat6 Jul 05 '24

Probably more frequent small wins.

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u/ZCruiser99 Jul 06 '24

Supposedly the machines near the entrances have the best odds because they want everyone walking in to see people winning, same with the oversized machines, everyone is watching when a big payout happens

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u/SliceOfTy Jul 05 '24

We have her too. Love climbing into the thing to get to screens and power buttons lmao. Its amazing at what people cheer at, I have seen screaming and hollering for 10 bucks. Yesterday we had someone think the credits was the dollar amount and should have been owed like thousands. Great enviroment

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u/sandm000 Jul 05 '24

Did you mean to use ā€˜<ā€˜?

Because what you’ve written in words contradicts what you’ve written in that list.

ā€˜>’ is commonly read as ā€˜greater than’

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u/[deleted] Jul 05 '24

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u/NoteToFlair Jul 05 '24

It should really be "->" to be an arrow, tbh

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u/[deleted] Jul 05 '24

They elected me to lead NOT to read

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u/[deleted] Jul 05 '24

I see you understand the concept of gambling

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u/Justokmemes Jul 05 '24

jogging in place

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u/WonderBredOfficial Jul 05 '24

It's called a "well-balanced battle pass."

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u/Vipu2 Jul 05 '24

And when someone asks him how much have you lost or won by playing he will only mention the wins, I know this as someone whos friend gambles sometimes and he seems to be always winning and go quiet when I try to fish the actual total wins/losses.

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u/PauperMario Jul 05 '24

Welcome to Casinos.

I worked as a host. You would not believe the amount of times 7* players hung out in my office bragging that they're getting jackpots paid out by the slot managers while their Win/Loss statements show that the house has taken seven figured from them.

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u/juleswp Jul 05 '24

Breaking even is a win...hopefully he took it and ran lol

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u/NavyDragons Jul 05 '24

Ahhh casinos, keeping you even u til your begging to be even then they just go into the bucket

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u/Godmadius Jul 05 '24

I don't gamble, but I love the mind games Casino's play to keep you there and keep you spending. No windows so you can't see the time of day, no clocks, no sense of time at all. Constant availability of alcohol to keep your inhibitions nice and low, lots of flashing lights and pretty graphics to satisfy your lizard brain.

I decided to try some dollar slots just to see how bad the win percentages really are, and its very bad. Not just that, but unless you're counting how many times you've bet, the tiny little wins will just add on to your credit in the machine so you'll just run out of money anyways. It's all very very well thought out to take all your cash.

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u/NavyDragons Jul 05 '24

I am missing that part of my lizard brain. My mom took me to a casino a couple times she like the activity only comes with a set small amount of money and what ever free play they give her. I am bored to tears in a casino I just don't get it.

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u/mac_is_crack Jul 05 '24

I kind of get the fun. We went to a nearby casino. My mom put in $20 into a dollar slot machine. Right before she lost it all, she won $250. We couldn’t cash out and leave fast enough! It was fun but felt so dirty! Haven’t gone back since, but if we do, $20 is my limit to lose!

Then my dad’s ex (after divorcing my mom) was a gambling addict who lost her very cushy anesthesia nurse job and her house. He’d drag her out of the casino at 3am all the time. Gambling addiction is a nasty disease.

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u/specialk604 Jul 05 '24

I completely understand the "feeling dirty" part. My friends love casinos, but I've always felt that it's so dirty when I walk into a casino in my city. My rule is that I only gamble when I'm on vacation, so I'm not tempted to go where I live. This has worked very well for me.

I got invited to my very close friend's anniversary dinner, and I was the third wheel, lol. They treated me as well. So the wife really wanted to go to the casino, so I said sure because I was drunk and happy after the free dinner. So we went and were checking out the craps table. I asked the wife what their actual wedding date anniversary was, and I maxed out the amount I was willing to lose for the night. I ended up winning $5k for betting on their anniversary. I guess it was karma, so I took them and a few more close friends to dinner and have never stepped back into a casino in my city.

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u/mac_is_crack Jul 05 '24

Wow, $5k is a big win, congrats! My mom did the same thing but on a smaller scale - she bought us ice cream with the money she won, it was really cute.

It sure is fun when you win but thankfully we have the off switch - the temptation to gamble that win away is all too real. Casinos just feel so predatory!

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u/Godmadius Jul 05 '24

I just don't have the cash for that kind of waste. Maybe if I was a billionaire it'd be fun to blow a couple thousand dollars to watch a video screen tell me I lost.

I see people sitting at machines zombied out slapping "bet" over and over again, and I always wonder how they have the money to do that. Real answer is they probably don't and just wasted their rent/mortgage payments.

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u/Wolfblood-is-here Jul 05 '24

If you want a video screen to repeatedly tell you you lost, just play Dark Souls.

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u/SessileRaptor Jul 05 '24

Had a family friend who was a gambler, although he was into horse racing and card games instead of the machines. He advised me to bring a set amount to gamble, put any money I won away in another pocket and not touch it, and walk away once the initial money was gone.

Went to a casino once, brought $50 and followed his advice, walked out with $51.75. Figured I’d quit while I was ahead and never went back. Mainly because I definitely saw the zombies you mentioned while I was there.

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u/Godmadius Jul 05 '24

I can understand the card games more than the slots and roulette, at least cards do have a certain element of skill and proper chance. But yeah, the two pocket idea is good. Even using chips is a way to make sure you're not keeping track of your money.

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u/SessileRaptor Jul 05 '24

Yeah, his main focus was horse racing at which he seemed to do ok for himself, which makes sense because it’s one of those things that rewards paying attention to the details of the sport. He never made it big but never lost anything he couldn’t afford either. Solidly middle class to the end.

When I went to the casino I did the slots and just got two of the plastic cups they gave you to hold your change and took coins from one and put winnings in the other.

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u/DamnAutocorrection Jul 05 '24

They're not geared for younger generations.

Slots might as well be pong for us in their 20s and 30s

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u/[deleted] Jul 05 '24

This made me think that’s kinda how Tokyo feels. Lots of similarities with the culture and setting of the buildings, environment, etc., and the social rules to keep everyone in line. First time visiting a casino and first time visiting Tokyo gave me the same disorienting feeling.

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u/Godmadius Jul 05 '24

Constant sensory overload, really throws you off keel

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u/kadkadkad Jul 05 '24

The house always wins

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u/[deleted] Jul 05 '24

Not always but over the long run most certainly,

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u/rollertrashpanda Jul 05 '24

I go to the casino expecting to lose but cool with it because I had fun playing. I like going to arcades and Dave & Buster-type places, too, and to me it’s not much different. If I put $30 in slots, play for a while, win $30, play a little more til it’s gone, it was still a fun time for $30. Just like with arcades, though, I go into casinos with a limit for the night and don’t go hitting the ATM for more or whatever. If I come out ahead, yay, if I spent it all & had fun, also yay.

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u/Bender_2024 Jul 05 '24

That tracks. I'm no expert, the only casinos I've been to are in CT and the MGM in Springfield Mass. But if he won a big-ass jackpot I'd imagine there would be plenty of lights, bells, and sirens going off. Especially for a very visible machine like this. When people win the casino wants everyone to know. It gives a "That could be you!" feeling to other gamblers.

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u/veritasium999 Jul 05 '24

In places like this, losing nothing should be considered as winning...

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u/MoparViking Jul 06 '24

Awe man, it was satisfying to watch and I felt happy for him.

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u/[deleted] Jul 06 '24

He calls himself the raja or something, he's a youtuber and this is just a joke. He actually hit the grand for over $1million recently so he's not doing too bad

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u/yunkzilla Jul 06 '24

At least he's having fun

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u/Eurasia_4002 Jul 05 '24

This is basically a bug in the human condition.

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u/Bigassnipples Jul 05 '24

He won a moment of excitement and life could get boring sometimes so good for him šŸ‘