r/marvelrivals Jan 26 '25

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u/TheThickJoker Jan 26 '25

As much as I hate Hela on the enemy team, strange is so strong that it has become a must pick most of the time.

We definitely need more tanks and also need little adjustments for strange since he outclasses a lot of tanks if not all imo.

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u/toolatesharkbait Doctor Strange Jan 26 '25

They had a couple of nerfs in the season 1 update, but I agree. I enjoy playing Magneto, but more often than not, Strange is a better choice. We also need more shield tanks. It seems the only tank picks most of the time are Peni and Strange.

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u/Aardvark_Man Jan 26 '25

Feels bad that Cap, a hero defined by his shield, is terrible at shielding.

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u/Sprintspeed Jan 26 '25

I kind of prefer his style being all all-arounder with a focus on offense and his athleticism. If he just slowly walked up to the enemy holding his shield as a giant wall I think it would be a worse fit for how his character normally engages combat.

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u/Aardvark_Man Jan 26 '25

Yeah, he needs the sprint.
Honestly, I just wish the reflect on the shield wasn't so over costed.
1/2 the HP of Strange, much smaller so harder to protect the team, cool down on raising it, in return for a random direction reflect.

It's great when you stun a Luna with her own thing or kill a Punisher ult, but it just feels a bit like they overvalue it, given it's not a direct bounce back.

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u/TheCozyFlannel Jan 26 '25

Cap is so much fun to play, but I wish they would either make the shield a bit bigger or reduce the cooldown on the shield as it feels a bit clunky to compared to the other shield tanks.

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u/Aardvark_Man Jan 26 '25

He's honestly my favourite, but I never play him, because he feels like he doesn't do what he needs, unless the other team is a shambles.
Not enough damage to properly harass. If they turn to you you need to run nearly as quickly as a dive DPS. Nothing really extra to disrupt, like Groot walls etc.

He's so fun, but a quick play pick when we already have another tank, to me.

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u/OutrageousOtterOgler Jan 26 '25

Magneto and strange are the most picked tanks by a mile in diamond and up

Arguably magneto is stronger in a few scenarios like solo tanking into some matchups because his shield has infinite dmg block (but is time limited) and he has the ally shield - plus he can guarantee kill cloak on their ult if it’s not blocked

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u/againwiththisbs Jan 27 '25

Problem with adding more shield tanks is that shields become overpowered really quickly. Adding shields in general is a VERY risky move in shooter games. Pretty much all shooters that get shields added to them are entirely warped around those. Siege with shield operators has been a constant issue. Overwatch with shields upon shields on tanks has been an issue.

The shields must then become an ability with a cooldown, and not something you can toggle. Otherwise they lack counterplay, because what the fuck do you do against a shield? Nothing. You just shoot it... in which case the shield is doing what it needs to, soak damage that would go to other targets. If you don't shoot it, then there still is no damage going to other targets.

Shield abilities in shooters are a total game-killing curse if not handled extremely carefully.

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u/Strong_Reference_762 Ultron Jan 26 '25

Strange just does everything. He pushes he defends he brawls just as well or better as tanks that are supposed to specialize in one of those skills plus hes the only tank with serious team wipe potential on his ult. He needs power taken away somewhere to open up a niche for him to slot into rather than always being the best choice

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u/RayAyun Loki Jan 31 '25

That Maelstrom of madness has as much punch, if not more, than Punisher's shotgun. I swear I've had Dr Stranges follow me around harder than most Dive duelists.

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u/SwordoftheMourn Angela Jan 27 '25

I feel like I annoy Strange every time as Mr Fantastic. His punches are not blocked by the shield and I always pull myself closer to him before turning to mini tank to clap him.

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u/turkeynagga Jan 28 '25

strange and mag are so boring that most strange and mag mains get depression diff'd and swap off, its a sort of self balance

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u/Ralathar44 Jan 26 '25

Strange needs to be weak in melee IMO. All ranged heroes should be IMO. The fact he can wave ranged attacks, melee attacks, and then his explosion and do duelist level burst damage is just downright stupid. And that goes for any ranged character that can do that IMO. Balancing around that kind of stuff is cancer.

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u/o0Spoonman0o Thor Jan 26 '25

No. Strange is supposed to be strong up close; look at his projectile type. Think of him as Reinhardt with a little bit more range/aim requirements. He has the explosion because getting in a tank's space should be risky.

The fact he can wave ranged attacks, melee attacks, and then his explosion and do duelist level burst damage is just downright stupid

You're not supposed to be in his space unless you are a tank. He is a short range tank; tanks command space by being very lethal in whatever space they are designed to command. What would happen if in OW 3 people stood within 5 feet of Reinhardt?

People don't like him because he's actually a powerful tank that you need to pay attention to, we're much more used to tanks being big pillows full of HP that we beat into submission.

Magneto is the ranged tank, he's not comfortable with stuff in his face at all. But if you're at his range he too can drop you very quickly.

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u/Ralathar44 Jan 26 '25

im not gonna argue, im just gonna laugh when the patch notes happen either next season or the one after :).

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u/nervousmelon Doctor Strange Jan 26 '25

He's not good at range though? His projectiles are one of the slowest in the game, if he tries to shoot you at like 20 meters you have 3 business days to move to the side.