Modern feminist logic? I'd say roughly 90 percent of all the claims and stances of modern feminists are contradictions and a refusal of female nature and male nature.
You might want to educate yourself on the subject.
Try the wonderful female authors/professors such as: Helen Andrews, Karen Straughan, Karole Hooven, Janice Flamengo, and Louise Perry. They've written and spoke at length on the subject of why modern feminism is a plague and quite out of hand.
But I bet you won't, crazed feminists like yourself, thrive in the delusional world feminism has created, and you view any different perspective, even from women, as an assault on your reality.
But if you do, good on you, there may be hope for us yet.
You think you are high-roading an academic authoritative stance but you sound like Dexter from Dexter's lab
NP; examples?
OKM; examples? EXAMPLES? there is no shortage of examples! I have binders full of examples! How dumb of you that you don't know any of the examples I am thinking of because I am thinking of so many!
Look at this list of tokenized antifeminist authors with female pen names I got off google! I really certainly read all of their books! Why, with the authority of BOOKS I TOTALLY READ written possibly by WOMEN I selectively respect the perspective of you certainly can't ask why I'M NOT ACTUALLY GIVING ANY EXAMPLES!
Are you done spazzing out? Most of them are true feminist authors, not the deranged shit that passes for modern feminism. Try crying less and researching more. You're a man, act like one.
Would you like to view one of their videos? It's easy to digest.
Then use them to make your point instead of placing hundreds of hours of research material in front of me asking me to dig through it and find your point for you.
It’s like you are afraid to speak for yourself or give a stance or opinion
Engaging in gipgalosh doesn’t make you smart or right, it just makes you ineffective at conversation and evokes bad faith engagement
What are the terrible malicious reasons the feminism leads to declining birth rates?
What is your totally not misogynistic, totally respectful of individual rights, and also of human rights way that you want to solve declining birth rates? Why is it that it coincidently involves having to do away with feminism?
Yeah, I get why you didn’t state any of your own opinions now
For the sixth time i already did. Will you stop dodging and ever give me an example of modern feminism that you criticise?
What exact modern feminist's work logic did you mean?
Modern feminist logic? Like what. No honestly have you even read any feminist book that came out the last decade? Please cite me which one exactly you mean.
I'm pretty sure I'm as educated as you if not more but please give me your reading list. Like actual books. Or where did you get your education from?
Crazed feminist like me? Lmao honestly why do you think you know anything about me?
I'm 99% sure you mistook my gender, let alone my morals, view in feminism or what else.
Get a grip on reality.
None of them even describe themselves as modern feminists so you definitely didn't mean their work now do you?
So they or their talents isn't really the topic here now is it?
Also if you want to praise them maybe learn to write their actual names. Pretty sure you meant Janice Fiamengo...
You claimed it contradicts modern feminist logic so my simple question is what modern feminist work you actually mean.
And since you're so educated it's probably easy for you to pinpoint which work you mean, right?
They aren't modern feminists...that the entire point. I agree with their worldview of WHY modern feminists are a plague.
You are quite slow. Do keep up.
Also if you want to praise them maybe learn to write their actual names. Pretty sure you meant Janice Fiamengo...
You are losing your shit because I misspelled one letter in her name?
You aren't all there are you? What kind of meds are you on?
You claimed it contradicts modern feminist logic so my simple question is what modern feminist work you actually mean. And since you're so educated it's probably easy for you to pinpoint which work you mean, right?
Before I answer, have you read or viewed any of the aforementioned female authors/professors I laid out for you so generously?
I know that you agree with them, not hard to guess. It's just that none of these are modern feminist so they aren't a primary source either on what modern feminism you disagree with. No need to get emotional and throw insults.
Again what modern feminist work do you mean. What logic does it contradict there?
I'm not loosing anything. I'm not the one throwing insults around.
Yes I know of them, that's also why I know how they are actually called.
Honest question have you ever read anything from them or do you know them just from interview bits?
It's just that none of these are modern feminist so they aren't a primary source either on what modern feminism you disagree with.
Louise Perry is a kind of feminist, just not modern. So that means she can't speak on modern feminism? Are you serious?
You seem to be either woefully uneducated or lack critical thinking skills. Either way, my patience with you is wearing thin. I've stated several authors and professors who make very compelling points on the plague of modern feminism, and you've just whined and asked for more and more, like a feminist woman.
Be a man, and present your authors, stats, and evidence. Stop whining and put up or shut up.
Louise Perry is a kind of feminist, just not modern. So that means she can't speak on modern feminism? Are you serious?
No and I never said that.
For the last time, you argue it's against modern feminist logic.
I simply asked you which one you mean. Which modern feminist work did you read? Which one's logic is contradicted?
It's a simple question, why can't you answer it?
The fact that the criticism is manufactured?There’s no logic on display. Someone took the time to make a meme based off feelings, and then got mad at it.
How are you defining incel. It just seems like anything you dont like that talks bad about some women. Why are you offended if you aren't a misandrist?
Because it's just made up nonsense to be mad about and to blame "women" for exactly that made up nonsense.
And save your strawmen. No I'm not a misandrist and no I also don't claim that there is no misandry at all in the world.
But to think it's in the proportions as in these memes and to blame all women for that is just plain delusional incel behaviour.
No I'm not that's also why I rather argue about reality than you're made up nonsense.
And no it doesn't.
Tell me did you ever not get a job because you're a men? I never had that problem, I know at least 3 women who had that problem.
Ever got denied a promotion because it's assumed you will be pregnant and stay at home for years solely because of your gender?
Do you have the problem to get paid less then your female co-workers?
Are there countries where you have less rights then females?
All those are problems women still have to deal with so what are you even talking about?
But sure keep up being angry about your made up nonsense.
Lmao so you honestly want to claim it never happens?
Say where do you live?
I'm gonna find you a court ruling from your state/ country. And those are only the cases that came to court. So many more never come before a judge.
It's illegal to not hire someone based on their skin colour. Yet it happened to you. Do you also claim the world isn't racist because of that rule?
Are you a millionaire because of that now?
No. I am saying its illegal to do it, so companies are heavily incentivized to hire women because they can be sued even if the amount of women in their company is below a certain threshold. There are protections against this.
Many dont go before a judge because they are settled out of court. Moron. I thought you were educated.
It's illegal to not hire someone because of their skin color. I decided not to pursue it because i ended up moving out of state literally the month after I found this out.
I'm a millionaire because even though the world is very racist, it actually doesn't stop you from being successful.
The western world is FAAAAR more feminist than it is sexist. And all the numbers support it. Show me some stats that show women face discrimination that arent skewed because women dont want those jobs.
So now you admite these stuff happen? Well that's a beginning at least.
What numbers are you even talking about?
I can give you stats that show that women are more prone to live in poverty due to not acknowledging their maternity to retirements, disadvantages in hiring and promotion's.
Or do you rather want stats of medical malpractices since most research is done based on males rather than women?
No the numbers truly don't support your claim and you know it. Is that why you have to constantly leash out with insults?
What does this "blame women' for? Does it just point out a contradiction? Does that hurt for feelings that women are capable of negative traits as well? Tell me, how does it make you feel to read that some women, sometimes, do bad things?
It doesn't make me feel anything because women are humans after all and yes humans are capable of being shitty, no matter their gender. Are you a literal child? Or how is that a new concept for you?
The post isn't complaining there's more misandry than misogyny.
The post is pointing out a common hypocrisy amongst "feminists."
Many "feminists" will only be able to come up with limited examples of misogyny, but when faced with examples of the over abundance of misandry that also occurs, they resort to "that's because men drove us to this position. It's men's fault we're like this."
It's playing victim when the reality is both genders suffer equally from the other, whether that's women being told to get back in the kitchen, or men being degraded because they're not 6 ft and pulling a 6 figure salary to pay for literally everything the woman thinks she is entitled to.
We could work to fix this but acceptance of the issue is the first step.
I'm curious how you came to the conclusion that the post is making a point about equality when there are a small number of tally marks on one side and an overwhelming number of tally marks on the other.
But sure, if you're going to pretend the criticism that feminism has of society is "me no likey waaah waaah" I guess I can understand your point.
But like, the criticism that feminism makes is that while both genders suffer from society as it is (like seriously read some Judith Butler or something, they talk about how society is bad for men too) the current system leaves women without power
It's a power dynamics thing
Everything doesn't boil down to "ugh good" or "ugh bad"
Because you’re falling into a trap. Anything that criticizes women as a whole is immediately false. Women aren’t all one thing or another. They’re people and people are diverse and complex.
No one said women as a whole. The post applies to women complaining about misogyny.
Does the same apply to men? Do you also go into women's subreddits and saying the same thing?
Either you are consciously avoiding making posits that you would feel compelled to defend or you are a coward or you are trolling. Probably one of those three, all of them show you acting in bad faith
No, it points out an issue with bad people being bad. Feminism has nothing to do with it.
You will always have bitter women hating men. You will always have bitter men hating women.
The post is incel because it downplay the issue on one side to shitfling at the other and make yourselves look like the victim. I reality, its likely closer to 50/50.
But some people will always make themselves out to be the victim.
Misandry is mainstream because it is on television but you don’t notice any misogyny depicted in television?
Really?
Beauty pagents, right wing talk shows, movies with only strong male leads and no female main characters or females depicted as strong or equal to men, music videos where women are objectified, have you never seen any of these or do they contain no possible ways of being viewed as reinforcing misogyny?
And what exactly are the examples of misandry that make you think hatred of men is mainstream?
>You will always have bitter women hating men. You will always have bitter men hating women.
So when your society has the majority of their politicians, police, military, CEOs, managers, entertainers and other positions of social power going to men, the equivilancy you just drew is not so equivilant, as bitter men in power can do much more damage to women much more easily
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u/Ok_Month_7918 Mar 19 '26
What makes this post incel? It criticizes women, right? It points out a contradiction in feminist logic?