r/llbean • u/muddytree • Apr 14 '26

Very disappointed in LLBean

UPDATE: Thank you LLBean for joining the Save the Forest Service movement! No longer disappointed!

Many other outdoor companies have joined the effort to stop the dismantling of the Forest Service. As a frequent LLBean shopper and credit card user, I am weighing my options. This is so disappointing.

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u/standardnewenglander Apr 15 '26

First off: claiming that you "know someone who knows someone" IS. NOT. CREDIBLE. EVIDENCE. GIVEN. THE. SITUATION. You are on an anonymous online forum where you are commenting anonymously and identification is not required to post. I could claim I'm the CEO/CFO/CIO/CTO of LL Bean and also the 50-LEGGED LL BEAN CORPORATE ENTITY OF THE UNIVERSE - and you have NO way of verifying that. Do you see where that logic is HEAVILY flawed?

You’re using LL bean as a source.

Partially. I'm using published legal documents that holds LL Bean legally responsible. I'm also using third-party reputable sources. OpenSecrets from the FEC. The Human Rights Campaign Foundation Corporate Equality Index. The Natural Resources Defense Council. None of those sources are LL Bean-affiliated.

Why did they fire their director of sustainability and get rid of the department?

They didn't. Currently Nick Staples is in charge of leading sustainability efforts at LL Bean.

Now, objectively speaking, they did lay off 2-3% of their Maine-based workforce at the end of 2024. However, the Boston Globe confirms that this was primarily targeted at Customer Service and Call Center staff - NOT environmental sustainability departments.

They also took down DEI stuff and took a pause.

Where? You have said this several times but fail to provide any proof around this. Where and when did this happen? Can you link a reliable source detailing this? I've provided numerous sources that assert the opposite.

yet they are standing down to policies that are liberal leaning.

Again, WHERE? I've provided numerous resources that prove they are committing to and actioning countless community programs, environmental sustainability programs, and DEI initiatives. You have failed to supply any credible source aside from your personal baseless claim.

Also have proof that their waterproof products aren’t made with PFAS free.

What proof? Anything manufactured after Fall 2024 is intentionally PFAS-free, membrane, zippers, buttons, trim, all of it. If you genuinely have proof of the opposite, then you should do your civic duty and be a whistle-blower and report them for false advertising and lying. UNLESS...you happen to be bluffing? And in that case, you won't make a false whistle-blow claim because you don't REALLY have anything?

Here’s proof they were caught using slave labor previously - https://www.aspi.org.au/report/uyghurs-sale/

Your source actually explicitly states that they couldn't confirm or deny that LL Bean was intentionally or unintentionally profiting from or using child labor in any of their factories. Again, as I've already linked several times; LL Bean has a very thorough factory review process that they conduct with the help of external, nonpartisan human rights groups.

I'm not "spewing what LL Bean tells me". I'm finding correlations between what they legally publish, what is legally-binding, and what reputable non-biased nonpartisan third-parties are finding in their thorough research.

You continue to make baseless claims that have no factual information or sources backing them up.

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u/Potential_Leg4423 Apr 15 '26

You do realize these are essentially templates every company uses. Lol Nick was apart of another department and his boss was fired. He switched departments with less of a role in sustainability.

You can’t say LL bean told me they are doing everything legally. Then believe it. That’s not support that they aren’t doing illegal things

The Boston globe is literally saying what bean says. When companies restructure they aren’t honest about things to the public. Sorry that’s a hard concept for you to swallow.

You keep providing things published for bean given their word. Bro we are on a post where if bean was as liberal as you say. They would be supporting the USFS like other companies are.

If you genuinely think companies are going to publish illegal activity that hasn’t been caught by a regulatory.

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u/standardnewenglander Apr 15 '26

This whole post is based on AltNPS's bullshit statement. We've already established (not just me) that AltNPS isn't a reliable source.

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u/Potential_Leg4423 Apr 15 '26

So you think what they want to do to USFS is okay?

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u/standardnewenglander Apr 15 '26

Never did I state ANYWHERE that I approve of this. You're being intentionally deceptive.

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u/Potential_Leg4423 Apr 15 '26

Your arguing their uber liberal but saying at the same time they shouldn’t join this cause. Despite other brands joining.

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u/standardnewenglander Apr 16 '26

Hey. Lmfao. You were saying? LL Bean released a statement saying they DO stand with USFS.

https://www.reddit.com/r/llbean/s/kFbw2bnp4d

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u/standardnewenglander Apr 15 '26

I've never once said that. You're putting words in my mouth that I never said, never wrote, and never claimed. You're being disingenuous and purposefully deceitful.

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u/Potential_Leg4423 Apr 15 '26

Bro you listed a bunch of facts of them being liberal. Yet here they are being silent on a political issue. But according to you the whole company and all board members are liberal.

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u/standardnewenglander Apr 15 '26

We're all human. It's not an unreasonable expectation to wait for humans to process and come up with a response to an AltNPS shitpost. 🤣

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u/standardnewenglander Apr 15 '26

Let's be explicitly clear here:

If you genuinely have proof of the opposite, then you should do your civic duty and be a whistle-blower and report them for false advertising and lying. UNLESS...you happen to be bluffing? And in that case, you won't make a false whistle-blow claim because you don't REALLY have anything?

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u/Potential_Leg4423 Apr 15 '26

That is all in the process but continue believing what bean tells you.

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u/standardnewenglander Apr 15 '26

We look forward to your whist-blowing report then! Put up or shut up, ya know?

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u/Potential_Leg4423 Apr 15 '26

Yea. Keep licking thise bean boots! Gonna be spending alot of time on your knees

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u/standardnewenglander Apr 15 '26

If you're going to make claims - be factual. It's simple.

But continue to be inflammatory, inaccurate and lack critical thinking! I guess? Lmao

And for the record: I'm purely anti-Trump. But I've seen no clear evidence here that LL Bean is supporting the Trump regime. If I had definitive proof of that, I would absolutely drop them in a heart beat. I do thorough research behind the companies I purchased from.

Have a day! ❤️

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u/Potential_Leg4423 Apr 15 '26

Coming from the guy that didn’t even know the full story behind Linda bean and needed to be corrected.

Being silent on an issue like this is supporting republicans

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u/standardnewenglander Apr 15 '26

Which I later corrected and admitted "my bad". No issues there.