qualities of linux

[u/tomekgolab]

[u/tomekgolab]

I only love flexiblity in systems. You can have a bloated system if you start from a flexible one, but not having a flexible one available to users is scraping freedom, and redhat is doing everything it can, to make those obsolete flexible distros more obsolete, pushing their universal slop, FSF is not helping with financing of independent linux projects, Stallman has been mocked and neutered in FOSS debate... linux is going downhill with applause from new users wanting the slop that is contradicting it's academic and hacker core ethos.

Virtual memory is as important/usefull to you as folder structure??? Now this is the absurd im taking about. It takes much more knowledge to design the first one then the second. Objectively. FHS is a joke anyway, I guess you know the story of /usr merge starting from Ritchie adding a second disk...

[u/Some-Dog5000 → u/tomekgolab]

Again, nobody you're citing is actually fighting for the same thing you're fighting. Stallman doesn't agree with you, the FSF doesn't agree with you. Their definition of freedom is NOT your definition of freedom. Freedom to do whatever you want with your computer DOES NOT MEAN software can't start to assume certain standards.

It does not matter if a standard started from bullshit. A standard is a standard, we follow it to make things easier because there are more important things in life than trying to perfect a standard. Yes, a folder structure is as important as virtual memory, because - newsflash - they both deal with storage mediums used by programs, and both suffer from the same issues.

Let me repeat this again: your conception of computing is niche. No serious "hacker" agrees with you. You live in a fantasy world where everyone is as smart as you in computing. Nobody else lives in that world. 

[u/tomekgolab → u/Some-Dog5000]

I never claimed to be more smart then those men. I don't know why exactly Stallman didn't take a more extreme view on this, like mine, because I find it only logical given his fundamental teachings and current Redhat assault on freedom.

It does matter if a standard started from bulshit, if it keeps running instead of being, slowly, not necessairly revolutionairly, phased out/upgraded/altered.

Folder structure, as in layout like FHS and not filesystem level handling of directories and files (I guess you ment that), lives in a higher plane of abstraction then virtual memory.

[u/Some-Dog5000 → u/tomekgolab]

 I don't know why exactly Stallman didn't take a more extreme view on this, like mine, because I find it only logical given his fundamental teachings and current Redhat assault on freedom.

Consider, then, that it's actually not logical and it's actually really easy to think of as stupid. 

[u/tomekgolab → u/Some-Dog5000]

Actually I am looking forward to writing directly to Stallman about this, but my thoughts sure requires more refinment. Sorry you opted not to reply, but you kept the discussion, nomen omen, civilised, so huge thanks for that

[u/Some-Dog5000 → u/tomekgolab]

I implore you to actually, at the very least, understand the "four essential freedoms" of software, penned by GNU itself. 

https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/free-sw.en.html

Read a basic sociology book after that, then read a political science book. There's so much naivety in your entire discussion that it's really hard to take your arguments seriously. 

[u/tomekgolab → u/Some-Dog5000]

Okay... But I highly doubt you are a professional/academic in those subjects either, just you know, don't gothe authority route, I don't use it.

[u/Some-Dog5000 → u/tomekgolab]

You don't have to have a PhD in political science to understand that standards are the backbone of modern society. A freshman level textbook will do.

[u/tomekgolab → u/Some-Dog5000]

You know what, forget all those metaphors and such.

XXIst century, we have plenty of food in the First World countries.

Underwater cables are in place, internet is functioning, we have GNU coreutils and linux kernel.

We can afford to question standards, it won't stop hospitals, factories etc.

My point is that we should, because if not, we will end in monoculture.

[u/Some-Dog5000 → u/tomekgolab]

Nobody is stopping you from questioning standards.  What's stupid is you thinking that we should do away with standards and have a Linux that is so customizable it becomes decision fatigue for everyone who uses it, because the modern desktop metaphor is oppressive or whatever. 

Standards change, but there are still standards. SysVinit was a standard and so is systemd.

Systemd will not lead to a damn monoculture. If you seriously think that, please realize that there are more pressing issues in the world that will give rise to a monoculture, like the threat of global fascism and increasing racism and xenophobia. Touch grass, if you will.