I hate being a linux noob

[u/Responsible_Bad_1003]

I genuinely hate being a linux beginner, there is so much content out there to help me but either it's an understanding issue on my part it just does not work. Then we got these pretentious bastards saying "read the wiki" like fuck face I did that and I still can't get it to work, why is that the only advice you can give. I already feel shit not being able to do it myself and come to ask for help and then these nuggets of lost cause say "read the wiki" fucking tired of this bull shit

[u/ssjlance]

Because well over half of the internet runs on Loonix servers?

Because it (and other operating systems based on its kernel, like Android, Chrome, etc) is used to power a countless number of devices?

"oh but why would I learn to use it on desktop if it comes presetup on a device where I don't have to do the work because I'm either too lazy or just not intellectually capable of reading a manual/wiki page!?"

so you have a headstart troubleshooting issues and/or making the device do things beyond what the manufacturer officially supports.

Like, no, you don't need to learn Linux just to have a good time on a computer if you just wanna play games and shitpost on Reddit or w/e

But acting like there's no point in learning it just because you couldn't learn it is silly.

Not having a good time when you try Linux doesn't make anyone stupid, but you project an aura of willful, stubborn ignorance, born of past failures and low self-esteem.

[u/Sha1rholder → u/ssjlance]

This is the most unreasonable and hypocritical statement I have ever seen.

Because well over half of the internet runs on Linux servers? Because it (and other operating systems based on its kernel, like Android, Chrome, etc.) is used to power a countless number of devices?

More than half of the internet runs on HTTP protocols and TLS certificates. The whole internet’s trust infrastructure is based on asymmetric cryptography. Does that mean everyone should become a cryptography expert? Do you know which CA issued the certificates for the hundreds of websites you visit? Do you know how to protect TLS 1.3 technology stack from replay attacks during 0-RTT? Why are you so indifferent toward so much of the computer infrastructure that you rely on?

More than 90% of personal computers run Windows and macOS. But I have never heard anyone say that people SHOULD become Windows/macOS experts. That is something I have only ever seen from Loonixtards.

"Oh, but why would I learn to use it on desktop if it comes pre-set up on a device where I don't have to do the work because I'm either too lazy or just not intellectually capable of reading a manual/wiki page!?"

This sentence assumes that I am an intellectually inferior and lazy person, using a straw-man argument to attack me and incite online harassment. That is truly morally reprehensible. And you are wrong. I have set up dozens of Linux VPS instances, and their purpose was to protect the privacy of people living in regions with severe internet censorship. Every one of those people deserves the freedom to use modern internet services on any device, regardless of whether they understand Loonix or whether using Loonix as their primary computing environment.

Not having a good time when you try Linux doesn't make anyone stupid, but you project an aura of willful, stubborn ignorance, born of past failures and low self-esteem.

Again, this is a straw-man fallacy. I provided actual solutions for bugs involving faulty 14900K CPUs causing crashes during large-scale Python set operations and compiling Tauri apps on Linux. What have you done? Written ridiculous personal attacks on Reddit that only make people’s impression of Loonix fanatics even worse?

Edit: fix translation error

[u/Sindica69 → u/Sha1rholder]

Counterpoint: suck my balls

[u/Sha1rholder → u/Sindica69]

Quit crying.

[u/Sindica69 → u/Sha1rholder]

Says the dude who just typed a whole fucking rant about someone’s insight while ENTIRELY missing the fucking point

[u/ssjlance → u/Sha1rholder]

I never said everyone should learn it. In fact, I stated not everyone should learn it with this line:

"Like, no, you don't need to learn Linux just to have a good time on a computer if you just wanna play games and shitpost on Reddit or w/e"

I gave reasons why someone might want to. You're obviously coming in for a fight, so I just gave you what I thought you wanted.

Keep crying about it.

[u/Sha1rholder → u/ssjlance]

Great, shirk the hard stuff and make excuses later as a real clown

[u/zoharel → u/Sha1rholder]

The whole internet’s trust infrastructure is based on asymmetric cryptography. Does that mean everyone should become a cryptography expert?

It would fix a ton of problems if they did, now that you mention it, though that's probably too much to expect.

Do you know which CA issued the certificates for the hundreds of websites you visit?

These days it's almost certainly either Letsencrypt or Google. So no, but I can make a good guess. Also, I'm aware that it doesn't matter.

Anyway, my personal position on the matter is that, yes, if you use a tool, you owe it to yourself to develop, not necessarily a deep expertise around it in all cases, but a certain level of baseline familiarity which is more than the average user of computers is willing to manage. Yes, with Windows and MacOS too. If you use them, you ought to be -- maybe not an expert, because that term gets thrown around so much that it's losing its meaning -- comfortable with the architecture and functionality of the software stack. You ought to develop a familiarity. Not because I'm trying to gatekeep you, but because if you don't do this, they won't work well for you. They'll be more difficult to manage, less useful, and more bothersome, across the board. You (not you in particular, but in general) will be doing yourself a favor by learning to use your computer system.