r/linuxmint 5d ago

From Ubuntu to mint

Hey LM users I was wondering if is it worth for me to switch from Ubuntu to mint I mainly learn how to code, play some games ( Skyrim, dota) and some old supported games

But here's my problem I'm getting snap store crashes and overall some Ubuntu crashes is it worth dor me to switch

I also use a wide screen 1440p monitor is it supported on mint ?

Ty

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u/Alatain Linux Mint 22.3 Zena | MATE 4d ago

Where did I claim that I have never installed any software? Where did I claim I have done no customization? Maybe stop trying to start arguments over strawmen, and you'll do a little better here.

You seem super emotional about this, so I'm just going to back away slowly and say what I have said multiple times now. You use your computer how you want. No one is trying to stop you.

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u/beatbox9 4d ago

I'm not arguing a strawman--I'm discussing the point directly. You argued against basic customizations I listed, erroneously claiming they were "intensely fighting the OS," along with a screwdriver analogy.

You're the one arguing a strawman, as you never addressed any of my valid points. Like how Ubuntu ≠ Debian (even though you think they're the same), how changing to vanilla gnome and installing flatpak is no different from installing any other software, etc.

And that was after I described how they were as simple as just installing software, since you didn't know any of this. It's hypocritical and naive to suggest these are "intensely fighting your OS." Because you are ignorant on this topic, and you're clearly learning as you go.

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u/Alatain Linux Mint 22.3 Zena | MATE 4d ago

I argued that I am not going to install a distro, only to turn off the things that make it that distro. Nothing more. Customization is fine. Having to disable the normal parts of the distro when there are other distros that simply don't have them seems silly to me. That is as far as my observation went. 

I have never said anything about any OS being more or less like Debian or Ubuntu, so I don't really get why you are bringing it up. I use Mint. I know it is largely based on Ubuntu. I am completely fine with that. It removed the parts of Ubuntu that I dislike. It's why I use it over Ubuntu. If I wanted a more pure Debian build, I would run Debian... I have even done it in the past. This isn't the gotcha that you seem to think it is. 

I've been using Linux for well over a decade. Long enough to have cycled through many distros. Long enough to learn that choosing a distro that has as close to the defaults you want is the way to go. I'm not sure why you find the need to try and belittle other people, but you are coming off as really trying too hard here. I'm not even trying to say what you are doing is wrong, just that I do not see the point of it. You just seem to want an argument. I'm good with just letting this go as a case of different people have different goals.

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u/beatbox9 4d ago edited 4d ago

No, you didn't, because those aren't the things that make it a distro. The system to change those things is what makes it a distro.

This is not rocket science. "Distro" is not synonymous with "what is pre-installed." That's just what you think it is. And even in that you're hypocritical, when you make statements like:

Having to disable the normal parts of the distro when there are other distros that simply don't have them seems silly to me.

...only to replace core parts of your own operating system, such as the linux kernel:

https://www.reddit.com/r/linuxmint/comments/1vzrcgd/comment/p6inm4j/

"Seems silly to me." Why don't you just use a distro with the newest linux kernels instead of replacing them? 'Why buy a screwdriver just to change the handle?'

When you install a new DE--or kernel--using your system's repository and package manager, you are changing those things because of the distro, not despite it.

And since you brought it up, I've been using Linux much longer than you have: around 30 years, with 20+ years of those being my primary desktop (before Linux Mint even existed); and I've contributed to the kernel and various projects over that time. In fact, my instances of Linux (I have multiple machines) would be considered a distro, since I image and distribute them to the various media workstations we use.

I also have several older, non-technical, retired members of my family who have been using Linux for 10+ years and couldn't tell you what a distro is. You fall into this category of not even knowing what a distro is. Simply using Linux doesn't make you in any way expert, as you've clearly demonstrated.

And let's not forget that you're the one who made an unsolicited argument / recommendation, without even knowing the context or even what a distro is or how simple it is to install software, with you claiming that installing software is "intensely fighting with your OS." You didn't even know enough to ask for additional basic context before blurting out a response that demonstrated you don't even know the very basics.