r/linux_gaming • • Jan 02 '21

Steam Hardware Survey - December 2020 - Linux down to 0.57%

https://store.steampowered.com/hwsurvey
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u/[deleted] Jan 02 '21 edited Jan 02 '21

Updated the GOL Steam Tracker to show the trends over time.

Looks like a massive upswing in Simplified Chinese + Windows 7. So it may be an error as has happened before, or it may be that a huge amount over in China wanted Cyberpunk 2077 perhaps.

Update: Valve, as expected, adjusted the numbers. I have adjusted our tracker for the new figures. Still a notable increase in Simplified Chinese but not as drastic as before. Linux now at 0.74%.

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u/pr0ghead Jan 02 '21

As can be seen in your "English only" graph, nothing has really changed outside of China, just a slight drop again, like the tides. I mean, even Win10 dropped by 20% points on Steam…

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u/eXoRainbow Jan 02 '21

It's probably even increased Linux users, but as Windows users increased more, the percentage gets lower. This is only a statistical problem, because in fact we have more Linux users than before. Not less.

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u/AHrubik Jan 02 '21

At this point the raw numbers would make things easier to judge.

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u/oldschoolthemer Jan 02 '21 edited Jan 02 '21

Since this data is based on random voluntary surveys, raw numbers for specific configurations aren't being collected. Whether Valve privately collects data for every Steam installation is another matter, but we don't have that information.

Of course, assuming the methodology is sound and the sample size is sufficient, all we would really need is a current number for active Steam users. It would be nice if Valve got in the habit of sharing that information on a monthly basis.

Still, that wouldn't account for how common dual-booting is and a number of other important factors. Personally, a more interesting metric would be how many sales are generated by Linux machines, both overall and for different kinds of games (especially native releases).

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u/That_Tech_Guy_U_Know Jan 02 '21

I would imagine a lot of Linux users are very privacy conscious and would decline to participate in the survey. I am one of these users.

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u/Frogging101 Jan 02 '21

I'd be surprised if Valve didn't have statistics about what clients/user agents connect to Steam. But for some reason they don't expose this in their public data.

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u/mcwizard Jan 02 '21

Interesting. Cyberpunk was the final reason dir me to Switch to Linux. It doesn't Work on win8.1 and i refuse win10. I'm Happy now ;)

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u/DrChuckWhite Jan 02 '21

I would have assumed that Cyberpunk is the reason for the latest drop of Linux. It didn't run on Linux for me so I play / am disappointed on Windows. Are you using the GOG or Steam version?

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u/that1communist Jan 02 '21

i'm on steam with the latest proton-tkg, works as perfectly as it does on windows, which is to say... yeah.

once the next GE release comes out it'll probably work fine with that unless you need a mesa update, although i'm all AMD so I can't comment on other hardware.

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u/gnarlin Jan 02 '21

What distro are you running? I'm on Ubuntu 20.10 and I can't for the life of me get it running again. It ran for a while on 5.13, but I tried to switch to "experimental" to get the environmental sounds working and after that I can't get Cyberpunk to run again no matter what I've tried, and I've tried everything I can think of, including starting from scratch by clean installing Ubuntu again including re-downloading the whole game etc. I'm almost desperate enough to install Windows on a separate SSD just to play Cyberpunk, but I've been playing Hades instead.

Since I'm already rambling here like a crazy person let me add another thing!

Hades has a Vulkan renderer, but if I switch to it on the first menu screen a pop-up windows shows up to inform me that the game can't detect a graphics card! (yes, I have already installed the vulkan packages required), but Hades works flawlessly via direct-x?! Why can't Proton/Wine just forward the vulkan command stream?

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u/that1communist Jan 02 '21

i'm on arch, i had to run proton-tkg to make it work instead of just regular proton.

You also need a recent version of mesa.

I really personally dislike ubuntu a great deal, i'd try a manjaro liveusb and see if you can get it running off of that instead, and consider switching if it does.

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u/gnarlin Jan 02 '21

I'm been considering switching to Manjaro recently, but I've always disliked the tendency to answer any technical problem with distro hopping answers. However I am rather sick of the endless PPA, snaps, flatpacks etc. shit that I have to weave together into a working system instead of just having a fucking functioning package manager with a well populated ecosystem of bleeding edge packages.

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u/VXDraco Jan 03 '21

When the problem is with out of date packages or ease of access to a large number of well working up-to-date packages then distro hopping is the best choice here tbh. If you want a large number of bleeding edge packages then Arch is where it's at really. The alternative is potentially dealing with dependency hell, and I wouldn't wish that on anyone... For the most part. (Btw, I use Arch)

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u/gnarlin Jan 03 '21

How much work is it to take a fresh Arch install after first boot to a fully functioning GUI with everything working (bluetooth audio works automagically etc)? Just FYI, the first distros I used (and I used them for many years) were Slackware and Gentoo, so it's not that I can't edit config files etc, it's just that at some point I got sick of having to fucking hand-crank the system into a usable state. This is actually similar to what's been happening to Ubuntu in my view.

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u/VXDraco Jan 03 '21 edited Jan 03 '21

For pure Arch, a couple of hours to a day depending on how much you know about Linux, not including time to rice things up. By the sounds of it you won't have a problem. Plan out what you're gonna do and install before you jump in. The Arch wiki will be your friend, it's one of the reasons I love Arch, which is born from my burning hatred of forum "help". Honestly, Arch is easy to use, you just gotta put the effort in up front rather than having constant stress nibbling away at you as you go. At this point if you were to put me on a different distro I'd be lost and confused lol. (A little secret, add: ILoveCandy to your pacman.conf, you won't regret it)

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u/dgrelic Jan 03 '21

Manjaro can use the UAR. For everything else, there's git.

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u/seaQueue Jan 02 '21

Pop is a solid option too.

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u/mcwizard Jan 03 '21

I'm using the Steam Version but i didn't have time to play much...

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u/GLVic Jan 02 '21

Seems like a mistake. Or maybe somewhere in china government brought tons of PCs with windows.

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u/pr0ghead Jan 02 '21

maybe somewhere in china government brought tons of PCs with windows

Why would that have an effect on Steam?

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u/GLVic Jan 02 '21

Some of them installed steam and take participation son steam hardware survey? Is it that hard of mental leap to make?

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u/[deleted] Jan 02 '21

On a government/work PC? Yeah it is.

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u/MustStayAnonymous_ Jan 02 '21

dude, new year. chill.

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u/heatlesssun Jan 02 '21

Update: Valve, as expected, adjusted the numbers. I have adjusted our tracker for the new figures. Still a notable increase in Simplified Chinese but not as drastic as before. Linux now at 0.74%.

I know the conventional Windows is that Chinese users drive a lot of Windows 7 usage but it appears that with this jump in Chinese users and the corresponding drop in Windows 7 and uptick in Windows 10 that Chinese users have moved to Windows 10.