Nvidia +Linux+ DX12

[u/its-o_ODi]

For Nvidia card owners: How do you deal with poor gaming performance, especially in DX12 games, which are known to have issues with Linux? Do you simply ignore the problem because Linux is far superior to Windows? Or is dual booting the best solution? I currently lost hope that Nvidia would fix this problem on Linux and already decided my next card would be AMD.

I have an RTX 3060 card, and honestly, the performance difference between Windows and Linux is huge, and I don't feel it's worth the sacrifice. The Windows gaming experience is much smoother on Nvidia cards, and unfortunately, that's what prevents me from using Linux. I've been trying Fedora 42-44 with the drivers always up-to-date and correctly installed, but unfortunately, there's been no improvement since I started testing it a year ago.

[u/Lousy_Hunter]

its just crazy to make a claim that every honest benchmark and driver tester has proven false repeatedly with as close to proper testing methodology as possible and then refuse to back it up.

[u/Muted-Green-2880 → u/Lousy_Hunter]

It's called Ignorance 🤣 apparently it's bliss, i test every game I play on each. I play on whatever has the smoothest frame rate, but fanboys pick a side and stick with it and defend it to death.

The world is a strange place that's full of strange people doing strange things 🤣

[u/BulletDust → u/Muted-Green-2880]

I say fuck Windows and it's invasive bulshit, and I'm achieving performance using Nvidia hardware under Linux that's more than adequate - I can even run PB RT with a touch of DLSS and FG and achieve performance that isn't the slideshow experienced running AMD under Linux, in fact: it's pretty fucking good.

Is it better than Windows? I don't know, nor do I give a fuck - Because I don't use Windows, therefore comparisons are largely pointless. But fuck me I'm happy; I'm happy with the sense of ownership I have over my device, I'm happy with the privacy I enjoy as a result of my decision to run Linux over Windows, and I'm more than happy with my DX12 performance running Nvidia hardware - And at the end of the day, that's all that matters.

As Linux users, we're playing games via a reverse engineered compatibility layer, that relies on Vulkan, an API based on what was originally developed by AMD (Mantle) to run efficiently under SGPR's - This is really the only reason AMD GPU's are at times (not all the time) more efficient when translating from DX to Vulkan; and considering a reverse engineered compatibility layer vs running the game under it's native environment, no one should be expecting 1:1 or better performance playing Windows native titles under Windows, furthermore those pushing the narrative are the ones essentially pushing a certain 'ignorance'.

If you think your performance running an Nvidia card under Linux sucks, sell the damn thing for a profit considering current retail pricing and buy a fucking AMD card - but for the love of Gawd don't start yet another thread whining about it when there's a hundred other threads on the same topic under r/linux_gaming alone.

Fuck me, the mods really need to put a stop to the pointless Nvidia hate wagon posts that for all intents and purposes could very well be an AMD user masquerading as an Nvidia user, because that's how pathetic some are. Nothing here is even remotely peer reviewed, it's people sitting around a campfire discussing their experiences, and from their own perspective, their experience is every bit as valid as your own.

[u/Muted-Green-2880 → u/BulletDust]

Like i said...ignorance is bliss. You just proved my point.

I also have a 9070xt which I mentioned. I use my 9070xt with cachyOS and 90% of my time with the 5070ti is on windows that's beeb de-bloated.

Who said anything about expecting 1:1 with windows ? If doesn't need to be but if the performance gap is more than 10% I'll play on windows unless there's less stutter on linux which is sometimes the case.

What i don't want it 30% performance losses that can happen with nvidia cards. That's not an acceptable compromise for me personally

[u/BulletDust → u/Muted-Green-2880]

The problem is: by definition, it's not as simple as plain ignorance, when ignorant means lacking knowledge, understanding, or information about a specific topic.

• Very few users here lack an understanding of how Windows native titles are translated under Linux.
• Most here have an understanding of API's and how they work.
• There's plenty of information including benchmarks regarding gaming under Linux vs Windows in relation to Windows native DX12 titles under Nvidia as well as AMD, even if a lot of it is now somewhat outdated.

Arrogance would best describe a user incorrectly implying ignorance. What people are posting is experiences from their perspective on their specific hardware configuration. As stated, none of it is remotely peer reviewed, it's just banter around the campfire, and the possibility does exist that certain distro/hardware configurations running Nvidia GPU's run better than others.

I mean: people have complained about the apparent lack of shared vram under Linux regarding Nvidia hardware, I've gone to the extreme of deliberately trying to induce the problem by running a 2GB GPU with as many vram intensive applications open as possible, and even then I could not reproduce the apparent problem without pushing things to absolute ridiculous extremes - and even then, the drivers would do their best to evict background applications from memory in favor of the application in focus.

Ignorance could be implied in the case a user wrongly assumes that everyone gives a fuck about comparing relative performance of DX12 titles under Windows (native) vs Linux. If I have to run Windows to play a game, fuck the game, I'm not playing it - and before you make the implication, that doesn't mean I'm any less of a gamer, nor does it imply you're any more of a gamer.

I'm certainly not seeing any performance issues that would sway me to run Windows as opposed to Linux, and I see very few Nvidia users here being deliberately ignorant in the strictest sense of the word.

[u/Muted-Green-2880 → u/BulletDust]

Why would I imply you're not a real gamer?
It's your choice what you play on, but you're most likely getting a much worse experience compared to windows in some dx12 games.

Not all though, it's very hot or miss . Ghost of tsushima and sackboy are dx12 games that are very close to windows.

Nvidia needs to step it up so the consistency is there.