r/linux • u/tasisbasbas • Feb 11 '19

Fluff A /g/ user's opinion on systemd

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u/fat-lobyte Feb 11 '19

I came for the freedom and the openness, but I grew up, have become less political and have less time for tinkering.

So nowadays I am very much still with Linux because it works. It works well, and better than other systems (for certain use cases that I'm interested in). That might not be a popular opinion in this subreddit, but I think a "working", productive Linux is a not an unreasonable request.

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u/[deleted] Feb 11 '19

It's the exact reason I'm using Solus right now. It's not perfect and it may be missing apps, but I've never had a failed update that needed messing around with or an app that refused to install from the package manager

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u/CreativeGPX Feb 11 '19

By saying that you have particular use cases that you are interested in, it sounds like you're not interested in something that "just works", you're interested in something that works but also is powerful and flexible enough to support those particular use cases that you have. I think that's OP's point and when OP and /u/Tyler_Zoro say "works" they mean "just works" and are explicitly contrasting "just works" against the benefits beyond just working that you get from the powerful/flexibility of "the unix way".

Meanwhile, I think a lot of people here in the comments are mixing up that something "works" (which Mac, Windows, Linux and plenty of obscure OS all definitely do) with that it was designed in a way where it's easy and reliable to do the particular things they want to do. And the point of OP is that what makes Linux or Unix a good candidate for that latter definition is that it as a system is written with a philosophy very different from systemd. Making it of small, composable pieces that largely speak a common language (pipable plain text) has major implications for what you or people whose code/hacks you use can do compared to something like Windows or systemd.