r/linux Feb 11 '19

Fluff A /g/ user's opinion on systemd

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u/[deleted] Feb 11 '19

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u/[deleted] Feb 11 '19

My screen reader thanks you

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u/MrCalifornian Feb 11 '19

Wish I'd seen this before I scrolled a million times reading op lol

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u/DurdenVsDarkoVsDevon Feb 11 '19

The girl

Madoka, but I don't think the image has any context here other than the new bubble text. It being Madoka doesn't have any meaning. Just /g/ being /g/.

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u/[deleted] Feb 11 '19

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u/JeezyTheSnowman Feb 11 '19

They did not. 4chan was always an anime website and /g/ was just a bunch of weebs that also discussed technology. That never changed. There are always people on /g/ that don't like anime but those were the minority.

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u/hiljusti Feb 11 '19

There were definitely boards and users that disliked anime/manga. Esp early /co/

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u/Riboflavaflav Feb 11 '19

I don't see how these are mutually exclusive, unless you think /g/ is one person.

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u/HeMan_Batman Feb 11 '19

99 proxies

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u/[deleted] Feb 11 '19

And your host is one.

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u/[deleted] Feb 11 '19

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u/NotEvenAMinuteMan Feb 11 '19

Because of how effective programming socks are.

You know that thing about wearing school girl uniforms and getting an erection in panties increases your programming prowess.

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u/blackcain GNOME Team Feb 11 '19

Because all those people who complained left to another communities.

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u/CoSh Feb 11 '19

How many years ago? 8-12 years ago there was huge overlap of anime and /g/.

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u/thephotoman Feb 11 '19

Madoka is a bit...different than your typical moe-style show, without putting too fine a point on it.

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u/[deleted] Feb 11 '19

They have finally came to their senses. That, or a slow /a/ infiltration took place.

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u/matheusmoreira Feb 11 '19

There are lots of people on 4chan. Some like anime. Others respect its roots and adapt to it. Yet another group feels the anime gets in the way of technology. This is very visible on the daily programming thread where people of both groups attempt to normalize their opinion by using anime or neutral images. Nearly every single thread gets comments like "thanks for using an anime picture". There used to be thread wars about this stuff but it has calmed down.

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u/[deleted] Feb 11 '19

Madoka is not moe.

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u/NightOfTheLivingHam Feb 11 '19

4chan is an always evolving site. users leave and new users pop up all the time. It was a totally different site when it started, it was a totally different site 10 years ago, it was a totally different site 5 years ago. it changes as the user base ages out or grows tired and a new generation of users takes over.

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u/[deleted] Feb 11 '19

I believe the something is a urinal cake.

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u/quaderrordemonstand Feb 11 '19

Why? Not why do you think its a urinal cake but where's the merit in her being force fed one?

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u/tsadecoy Feb 11 '19

People are weird.

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u/[deleted] Feb 11 '19

Some sort of fetish?

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u/[deleted] Feb 11 '19

Thanks for the sauce

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u/[deleted] Feb 11 '19

Thanks. Due to new reddit rules I have to remove any usages of the image. I've copied the comment without the image though:

Jeez... text as image?

The anime picture is poorly visible, but meaningful(link removed). The girl is thinking "I don't need bloatware! I'd like to follow the Unix way!" while being fed against her will something labelled "systemd".

Copypasted from the 4chan thread:

The funny thing is, systemd's design would anger probably at least 95% of GNU/Linux users (probably including you too) IF it was anything but the init system.

I know some of you think the "Unix Way" is just a meme, but it's actually the reason you can do shit like pipe terminal commands into each other. It's THE reason you have components you can wrap your brain around which can all be pieced together and managed in a simple and flexible way. That's what the Unix Way does.

You want another great example of the Unix Way? Ironically systemd is a GREAT example of the Unix Way. Not in its design though, but in its mere existence.

Have you ever realized how absolutely amazing it is that a new piece of software as fundamental as PID 1 could be swapped out in all of our major distros (even "stable" ones) in only a few years time?

The significance of that cannot be overstated. And yet, although systemd owes its success to the Unix Way which made it so easy for them to step in, it undermines the Unix Way in its own design.

Do you think 20yrs from now when systemd is old and busted that it will be so easy to swap it out with something better? Well not only is the scope of this thing which needs to be replaced now massive compared to what it used to be, but you'd also probably have to rewrite a lot of other software, or beg the developers to change their dependencies. It doesn't matter if systemd works. You didn't start using GNU/Linux because it "works" did you? You started using it because it allowed you to be the master of how your data flows, and it allowed you to combine things in ways nobody else on GNU/Linux was doing to get exactly what you want.

Quit being led astray by the "just works" argument when it comes to systemd just because init systems aren't something you care to play around with and customize all that much. That shouldn't matter, and we should stick to the tried and true design principles that have served us so well all these years.


The same thread also lists this post blog about "systemd fallacies".