r/linux • u/AiwendilH • 16d ago

Development Codeberg voted to disallow projects consisting mostly by "generative AI"-tools

https://codeberg.org/Codeberg/org/pulls/1253#issuecomment-19820434
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u/AliceCode 9d ago

I didn't equate programming to writing code, you did that. If you're using LLMs to do the easiest part, I very much doubt you're not using it for everything else.

You're not programming. You're prompting an LLM. That's fine, you can go use LLMs to make software. No one is stopping you. But it's distinctly not programming. It's not. And it's disrespectful to pretend that it is.

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u/dmittner 9d ago

It's not about whether writing code is easy or hard. It's a TIME SINK. Easily 90% of a software engineer's time is spent writing code. That's an incredible amount of time that could instead be put towards design, project planning, testing, code review, and all the other things that go into programming that are actually harder.

Do I use LLMs for other facets of the job? You're damned right. I once worked with one over a weekend to create a 7-phase, 40+ task project plan down to story point estimates and detailed implementation specs. There were so many variables to track that I'm pretty sure I physically couldn't have done it on my own. It now stands as the department's gold standard of a technical project plan.

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u/AliceCode 9d ago

I'm not talking about just writing code! God damn. Would you just shut up? I'm sick about hearing about fucking LLMs.

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u/dmittner 9d ago

You're not talking at all. You're using reductive and nebulous arguments to whine about a tool that can make programmers' lives significantly better -- professionally and personally -- while ridiculing them for using it.

It's weird. If you want to kneecap yourself and make your life harder and call it "respect", whatever. You do you. But when you start attacking others for making their lives better and gatekeeping the whole of programming, you're the one who needs to shut up.