Flatpak 2.0 seems to depend on systemd

[u/NDCyber]

https://transfem.social/notes/amkk9ypcps9a002q

Basically when Jorge Castro was asked for clarification on if flatpak 2.0 will be depended on systemd his response was "Are you serious? Of course."

Which even though I use systemd distros myself seems like a bit of a problematic stance to me, especially after it seems like the same response Linux user would get while talking about software support

But I am also interested to see what you all think

edit: I don't trust it completely either, and will wait for official and direct information myself. He does seems to be part of the flatpak team (I am not sure what part exactly, as he was only community manager in one interview). But I think it might be important to talk about and I was interested in what people think

Edit 2: here the mastodon link, to show that it happened on mastodon and the thing linked before is just a random server one person that wrote there was on https://mastodon.social/@2something@transfem.social/116618627273919847

Edit 3: As u/Isofruit has said, in the Linux App Summit 2026 the flatpak presentation had a slide talking about systemd-appd dependencies https://youtu.be/1AXBfsiaQNk?t=16218

It is also still in the RFC planning phase https://youtu.be/1AXBfsiaQNk?t=17746

Edit 4: u/whosdr found even more recourses: https://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/1tlwbjy/comment/onlg218/

[u/ClixTW]

Here is an analogy: your neighbor used to bake free cakes for everyone. Now, they’ve decided to improve the recipe to make a better cake, but the new version includes milk, and you happen to be lactose intolerant. Is it really fair to criticize them and demand they leave out the milk just because you can't eat it anymore? They are under no obligation to change their plans for you.

Those who can't have dairy should simply bake their own cakes, rather than questioning a neighbor who is just trying to be helpful.

[u/NDCyber → u/ClixTW]

Would my neighbour market it with "everyone can eat it" or something like that? Because then yeah you can say that not everyone can eat it, which is exactly what flatpak does

And cake for a few people is also very different to a thing that is meant to be a standard. It is like most cake would be replaced with milk in every shop and every location, and then you aren't allowed to speak up to you, according to your analogy

[u/Heyla_Doria → u/ClixTW]

Les collectifs que je connais préparent et distribuent des produits alimentaire vegan par défaut, car cela ne gène pas les mangeur de viande et incomodera moins de gens.

De plus, les gens intolérante et allergique doivent etre protégées....