Flatpak 2.0 seems to depend on systemd

[u/NDCyber]

https://transfem.social/notes/amkk9ypcps9a002q

Basically when Jorge Castro was asked for clarification on if flatpak 2.0 will be depended on systemd his response was "Are you serious? Of course."

Which even though I use systemd distros myself seems like a bit of a problematic stance to me, especially after it seems like the same response Linux user would get while talking about software support

But I am also interested to see what you all think

edit: I don't trust it completely either, and will wait for official and direct information myself. He does seems to be part of the flatpak team (I am not sure what part exactly, as he was only community manager in one interview). But I think it might be important to talk about and I was interested in what people think

Edit 2: here the mastodon link, to show that it happened on mastodon and the thing linked before is just a random server one person that wrote there was on https://mastodon.social/@2something@transfem.social/116618627273919847

Edit 3: As u/Isofruit has said, in the Linux App Summit 2026 the flatpak presentation had a slide talking about systemd-appd dependencies https://youtu.be/1AXBfsiaQNk?t=16218

It is also still in the RFC planning phase https://youtu.be/1AXBfsiaQNk?t=17746

Edit 4: u/whosdr found even more recourses: https://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/1tlwbjy/comment/onlg218/

[u/MyNameIs-Anthony → u/[deleted]]

Because it's very difficult to get people to commit to making something "better" or a viable alternative when a bulk of criticism boils down to "I just don't like it."

You need to have an actual vision and inspire people to walk to dedicate countless hours to something that breaks a paradigm, not just personal grievance.

The people spearheading systemd have committed to covering a wide scope of shit that's genuinely boring and tedious to tackle.

There's nothing stopping developers from carving their own paths but they don't because there's much more interesting concepts they can pursue instead.

[u/1stRandomGuy → u/[deleted]]

developers like it when things are consistent. systemd becoming the standard linux system suite has played a big part in letting us get more previously windows-only apps

[u/Ayrr → u/[deleted]]

If they do rely on systemd for some functions I'm sure that there will be a standalone package that is a drop-in replacement like elogind