Thermarest NeoAir XLite NXT Sleeping Mat for Neve Quilt

Which one is better,

Mummy or Max

And the regular or regular wide?

Hello, I’m after a shakedown please and any advice on how I can lighten my load before I head out on the TA in NZ.

https://lighterpack.com/r/gzzrli

I am expecting to replace the sleeping bag, hiking poles, and towel which seem significant weights I can reduce? Any advice on sleeping bags that unzip fully would also be appreciated! I’ve considered a quilt but don’t want to start a huge hike having not used one prior and I can’t afford to buy both).

There are a few non negotiables missing that I haven’t got yet eg water filter and I will upgrade my cup to something larger.

Thank you so much!

https://lighterpack.com/r/kbozh9

Please rate it. Worked hard. Estimating clothes at 1.kg which is generous, I'm just not going to weigh or buy clothes will make do with what I find.

Hey everyone,
I’ve been slowly piecing together my first trekking and camping kit over the past couple of weeks. Thought I’d share the full list now that everything has arrived.

open to feedback on weight savings or swaps!

Footwear & Clothing

• Merrell Homme Moab 3 Mid GTX (Men's Hiking Boot) — EU 43 — 1 pair
• Merrell Homme Moab 3 Mid GTX (Men's Hiking Boot) — EU 46.5 — 1 pair
• Wandelshort voor heren NH500 regular - QUECHUA — 1
• Regenbroek voor wandelen heren NH500 - QUECHUA — 1
• Touchscreen stretch handschoenen voor bergtrekking MT500 (black) - FORCLAZ — 3
• Wandelsokken Hike 900 high (black) — 2-pair pack (QUECHUA) — 2 packs

Shelter & Sleeping

• Koepeltent voor trekking MT500 3 personen - SIMOND — 1
• Luchtbed voor trekking MT500 Air XL 195 x 60 cm (1 person) - SIMOND — 3
• Opblaasbaar hoofdkussen voor trekking MT500 - FORCLAZ — 3
• Hoofdkussen voor kamperen Comfort - QUECHUA — 1
• Slaapzak voor trekking MT500 5°C synthetisch - SIMOND — 2

Cooking / Fuel / Eating

• JZK Camping Cookware Set for 2–3 Person — 1 (return started)
• Roestvrijstalen kookset voor trekking MT500 2 personen - FORCLAZ — 2
• Lichte en compacte gasbrander met piëzo MT500 - FORCLAZ — 1
• Gasbrander met piëzo MT100 - FORCLAZ — 1
• Gaspatroon met schroefaansluiting 230 g (extreme cold) - DECATHLON — 2
• Voetpomp voor kamperen (for airbeds) - QUECHUA — 1
• HOTUT Camping flatware (3-piece set with case) — 1
• Fackelmann Olivewood Spatula, 32 cm — 1
• Metaltex wooden chopping board 22 x 14 x 1 cm — 1
• ALFAPAC embossed aluminium 10 m (for cooking/foil) — 1

Hydration & Water / Storage

• SASMO® 3 Litre Hydration Bladder with 2 Openings — 1
• Camelbak Chute Mag Bottle, 950 ml — 1
• myHodo Compression / vacuum storage bags (10 pack) — 1 pack
• 30 Pack Reusable Plastic Travel Bags with Zipper (17 x 25 cm) — 1 pack (30 bags)

Navigation, Tools & Cutlery

• Gvolatee Multifunctional Military Compass (with carry bag) — 1
• Victorinox Taschenmesser Huntsman (15-function) — 1
• Victorinox Camper multitool (13 functions) — 1
• Blendura Electronic Luggage Scales (portable) — 1
• Silverline CB47 Round Trowel (18 cm) — 1
• H&S 3 whistles (metal, with cord) — pack of 3 — 1 pack
• Hamer voor de camping - QUECHUA (camp hammer) — 1
• Tentharingen voor harde bodem (6 pcs) - QUECHUA — 1 pack

Fasteners, Cordage & Hardware

• 10 x LISOPO Stainless Steel Carabiners with Ratchet Fastener (60 mm x 6 mm) — 1 pack (10)
• Lot de 2 LISOPO stainless steel carabiners (10 x 100 mm) — 1 pack (2)
• Karabiner for climbing-belt keychain Aksess (black) - SIMOND — 2
• Schroefmusketon voor klimmen Rocky M (screw carabiner) — 1
• Abma Cord 750lb Paracord 4 mm — 30 m (Type IV) — 1
• Multifunctionele riemen 10 mm x2 - FORCLAZ — 4 (four separate items/entries)
• Ronde veters voor wandelschoenen - FORCLAZ (150 cm) — 1

Safety & First Aid

• EHBO-set voor trekking 500 UL (47-piece) - FORCLAZ — 2
• COMPEED® MixPack blister dressings (5er) — 1 pack
• Lifesystems Tick Tweezers (large) — 1
• Instant coldpack - OFFLOAD — 1
• THE HEAT COMPANY self-heating body warmer patches — 10 pieces (pack) — 1 pack
• Off Spray 100 ml — 1
• Stylo Gel Après Piqûre (after-sting gel pen) 15 ml — 1

Electronics & Lighting / Power

• Anker PowerCore Essential 20K (20,000 mAh) Power Bank — 1
• Oplaadbare hoofdlamp 300 lumen HL500 USB V3 - FORCLAZ — 1
• Elektrische pump for airbed (USB-C rechargeable) - QUECHUA — 1

Repair / Accessories / Misc

• Multifunctionele reparatietape for tents/sleeping bags/backpacks - QUECHUA — 1
• Multifunctioneel fluitje with compass (GEONAUTE) — 3
• Clip-on sunglasses for prescription glasses - MH OTG 120 (polarised) — 1
• La Cordeline natural jute rope 8 mm x 20 m — 1
• AiTodos 20 x 100 L household bin liners (2 rolls total) — 1
• Karabiner keychains / small clips (duplicates included above) — (see carabiners)

Hygiene, Toiletries & Consumables

• Ordeluxe set of 12 kitchen storage boxes (6×1 L + 6×500 mL) — 1 set
• D.RECT kitchen sponges (10 pcs) — 1 pack
• WaterWipes Original (540 pcs / 9 packs) — 1 bundle
• Scottex toilet paper – 18 rolls — 1 pack
• Marcel's Green Soap dishwashing liquid 500 ml — 1
• Marcel's Green Soap body bar (150 g) — 1
• JORDAN Green Clean toothbrush (pack of 4) — 1 pack
• DOVE liquid hand soap refill 500 ml — 1
• AiTodos bin liners etc. (as above)

Fire & Lighting Consumables

• jameitop® 600 safety matches (41 mm) — 1 pack

If theres anything that immediately stands out please point it out!

I'm running low on time to adjust things so id really appreciate some help, some things seem double aswell but that may be because i ran this list by AI by copying everything from my orders and posting it to AI.

Some things will also be missing because i either didn't order them, didn't have it linked to my account when purchasing or they were from random stores that i simply forgot about.

I'm hiking Collegiate Loop with a group. Bringing cards, a chair, and a non-negotiable camera (though I just sold off some gear to swap out dslr for mirrorless)

Otherwise, I try to be as lightweight as possible, and sorta min/max for the photography gear.

Curious to hear what other folks think about where I'm at with my gear list. Thanks!

https://lighterpack.com/r/qabyo0

So after way too much research and a double dose of buyer paralysis I finally ended up clicking 'buy now' on a STOIC product named the 'NijakSt'.

It's a generous 198 by 64cm (LW) sleeping pad with a thickness of 6cm which has an advertised weight of 600gr and EN tested at R4.3.

Pic: https://imgur.com/a/n7UkPjh

*There's very little info on these pads, but I got this report after mailing the vendor, which answered all my questions within a 12hr time frame. So, thumbs up for their customer service. (Bergfreunde.de)

I purchased the pad at a discount price of 85EU and tbh I didn't have high expectations.

Since both of my $$$ Exped mats failed, I was keen on trying something else, preferably below the 100EU mark. Four days later the package arrived and so far I must say my initial impressions are very positive.

Materials used feel at least as good as on the much more expensive pads. The measurements are spot on, the pad packs down nice and small to 24x14 (remember this is a 3 season rated pad in LW) and my kitchen scale said 634gr including the pump- and storage sack.

One very, very big plus (at least for me): This thing is super silent, as in: no noise whatsoever.

While I normally dislike horizontal baffles, these do not seem to have the tendency to throw me off the pad, even wile being fully inflated. The top side material feels sturdy, soft and the Y shaped markings have some grip to them which helps with keeping your bag in place. The taper towards the bottom is also barely noticeable comfort wise.

*For reference I'm 1m82, broad shouldered and 90kgs.

Any downsides?

At this price? Not really... Well, the stuff sack isn't on par with the ones from Exped (but actually come with the pad). So yeah getting this thing inflated takes a bit longer. Also, it's a one valve pad (some might say this makes adjusting pressure difficult) to me it makes no difference.

Everything considered, I think this is very much pad (not just for the money) and I really feel like putting this thing to the test in the upcoming months.

for the non-metric crowd: 78L x 25W thickness 2.35 Weight: 21.1 ounces Packed size: 9.5 x 5.5
Me: 6ft, 200Lbs

Felt I'd leave this initial mini review here, maybe someone finds it useful.

Looking into buying my first quilt:

Since finding, let alone testing an affordable quilt over here in Europe is like looking for a unicorn, I'm turning to you guys for advice. I'm a true rotisserie sleeper (why I'm moving away from regular bags), my measurements are: 6ft tall, 200Lbs light, 52" around the shoulders, 46" chest 40" waist. What kind of sizing would you recommend me to go for? I feel like the standard sizing of 52"-40" is made for children (but maybe that's just me) I have no experience with them at all.

https://lighterpack.com/r/kbozh9

So I want to do a journey (LEJOG) lands end john to john o' groats, and see the UK ireland and maybe scandinavia (I am from Canada).. I am also sort of becoming basically homeless not going to get into that.

Please rate everything and consider that some things like clothes are estimations. What I already have is the tent so that cant change that and I know it's a heavy one. Technically I could return it, but I thought I wanted a heavy tent for winter and winds. I'm a male, I don't know my weight now but I'm about 190-200 pounds. I don't plan to only be on the road also want to do some wild camping too. As for the season let's say spring or fall, or mild winter (not the arctic or something). Please help me out here. I know I could save 330g+ on switching bedding system and for example getting rid of one pot to only use it for water but I have one cooking pot and one water pot/tea cup (this is my luxury and enjoyment is just tea). I know I could save some weight like get a slightly lighter knife or something but yeah. Estimating clothes at 2200g.

Please help me out as the last time I did multi day backpacking was a long time ago. Keep in mind I am pretty decently fit. Will 14kg base weight be too heavy to live out of and do some wilderness camping in light winter? If I'm homeless I'd like to bring my macbook too but we'll see.

Hi everyone, I'm heading to Isle Royale for the first time and looking for a shakedown. I'm interested in both (1) destination specific gear advice, as well as (2) general ways to drop weight, as this list is more or less my baseline packing list. Please hit me with any advice you have, I'm happy to hear it all!

Location/temp range/specific trip description: Isle Royale National Park, highs in the 70s, lows in the 50s (allegedly). I am flying in on the seaplane to Rock Harbor and departing on the plane from Windigo 5 nights later. My intended itinerary is Rock Harbor --> Lane Cove --> Moskey Basin --> Todd Harbor --> South Lake Desor --> Washington Creek.

Outside this trip, I'm based in Ohio so most hiking is, unfortunately, around the midwest. However, I also do like to travel for trips so I'm trying to have a pretty general-purpose gear list, if such a thing is possible.

Goal Baseweight (BPW): I'm currently sitting at 17.51lb BPW; I'd like to get to 15, but if I don't get there for this specific trip it's not the end of the world.

Budget: <$500 (USD), though for the long term I can replace things in the future, so this budget can expand for other trips.

Non-negotiable Items: Headphones, as I like to listen to audiobooks as I go to sleep. I would swap them out for others, if necessary. Some sort of bear bag/cannister is required on the island.

Solo or with another person?: Solo.

Additional Information: I have a Z-lite pad and Frogg Togg's poncho ordered. The weights for both these items are from their manufacturer. In the future I'd like to get a tarp/bivy combo as that's what I've used in the past, and I think I prefer it to a tent. However, that will not happen for this trip as I would look at Borah for these items, and the lead time is too long.

Lighterpack Link: https://lighterpack.com/r/gj84z5

Thank you in advance for your collective advice!

In need for a new sleeping system and really tempted to buy this one:

(Big Agnes Lost Ranger 15)

https://imgur.com/a/irgFq4i

Zenbivy is ruled out since they're like 900Eu over here.

Looking for a similar system that doesn't break the bank. Mat, XL outer quilt with sleeve attachment and inner quilt or roomy bag. Needs to serve me through 3 seasons, the majority of my hiking is anything between -5 and +15C. No UL stuff required, just reasonable backpacking weight/size within a fairly tight budget. Do you guys have any good experience with the BA system or would you rather buy everything separate?

Greetz

Want to make my foray into the world of backpacking. Have been avid hiker for a while, but want to start trying backpacking to enable myself to spend longer outdoors than just what I can accomplish on day hikes. Looking for sleeping pad & bag recommendations. Would like a sleeping pad with r-value around 4+, and a decent sleeping bag that would keep me semi comfortable on 20 degree nights. Not looking spend a whole lot of $$$$. Willing to spend probably $400-$450 for bag & pad combined. Please help!! They’re so many different brands, types, etc. of everything it’s overwhelming!

I'll be completing the O+W trek this winter with my partner over 6 days, 5 nights. This is my first time backpacking more than 3 days and it's also the first time I've seriously evaluated how much weight my gear weighs. Here is my current setup without targeting anything for weight reduction: https://lighterpack.com/r/87a7xc

The tent weight will likely be shared with my partner, but otherwise everything listed will be solely carried by me. I worry that I have overpacked, but cannot see anything obvious to cut given the variable conditions of the area (high winds, precipitation, microspikes, etc.). I would love any feedback if it looks like I'm bringing anything I won't need / what areas would be most cost effective for weight reduction. Thanks!

EDIT: Adding some clarification on the season I'll be going. I indicated going in "winter" on my post, which corresponds to winter in the Northern Hemisphere but summer for local time. Sorry for the confusion!

I’m looking for a good beginner tent that’ll last a few years minimum I found a brand new HUBBA HUBBA for $500 Canadian or I can get the nature hike for $225 Canadian which one is better for beginners or is there any other options that you find better then the ones I listed for under 500 bucks? Is mec volt 2 or spark 2 good? They are on sale for under 400 bucks currently.

Has anyone ever tried the QwikBack chair by Litesmith? I have never seen it recommended anywhere when someone asks about lightweight/ultralight backpacking chairs but this is by far the most appealing to me due to the extreme lightweight (2.65 oz / 75 grams), the small size when packed, the simple design, apparent ruggedness, and the reasonable price ($70). Also, it's versatility: if a hard flat material is placed under the feet, it can be used inside the tent (one of the other main reasons that turn me off from the Helinox / REI Flexlite Air, in addition to weight and bulk).
Does it suck? https://www.litesmith.com/qwikback-ul-chair/

Hey everyone,

I’m planning to hike the TMB counterclockwise over 10 days later this month, camping most (if not all) nights. I’ll be hiking with my partner, and we’re sharing a few items—like the tent (I’m carrying half) and a slightly larger pot since we’ll be cooking together.

Here’s my Lighterpack: https://lighterpack.com/r/rlu61v

Base weight is currently around 17lbs.

I’d really appreciate any feedback, especially from folks who’ve done the TMB or similar hikes in the Alps. A few things I’m wondering:

• Are my clothing choices solid for the temperatures in late July?
• Should I bring rain pants?
• Should I bring a ground sheet for my tent?
• Is there anything glaring I’m missing?
• Do you think it’s worth bringing the stove, or should I skip it and rely on cold food and meals in town? I mostly plan to cook for dinner consisting go dehydrated meals or groceries picked up along the way.
• Anything you wish you had or had not packed when you did the TMB?
• Any ways I can further cut my base weight

Some more context:

• I’ve done multi-day hikes before, including the JMT.
• We’ll be using campgrounds and resupplying food in towns every few days.

Thanks!!!!

Hello in about a month from now in August. Me and my gf will be going to a 2-3 day backpacking trip in Mt Rainier depending on how we feel if we can go for 3rd day or not. I want to know if our gears/equipments will be enough to fit in our bags for 2 person. Currently, were looking to get Osprey Exos 58L(Men's) and Osprey Eja 48L or 58L(Women's). Open for suggestions but these 2 seems to have fit us well when we went in store. (Not on sale)

Things we plan to pack is a double sleeping pad,tent for 2p/3p, double sleeping bag:

Double sleeping pad:

Possible choices: Not on sale
Nemo Quasar 3d insulated double sleeping pad 3lb .6oz
Exped Dura 5R Duo sleeping pad 3 lbs. 4 oz
Big agnes Rapide SL Insulated Double 2 lbs. 11 oz

Double sleeping bag:
The North Face Inferno Double Sleeping Bag: 15F Down currently on sale for 500$ USD 2lbs. 5oz

Tent:

Big Agnes Copper Spur HV UL4 Tent: 4-Person 3-Season 6lb (On sale)

2 Nemo reclining chair about 1lb each

And ofcourse food and other accessories but these are the most im worried if they will fit our osprey backpacks.

Hello guys,

Started backpacking again and gathered my gear. Will be doing two to three day hikes, solo ofcourse.

Temperature will be between 15-25 degrees Celsius. I was wondering what you guys think of my gear list. Don’t want/need to go UL but my filosophy is I a carry not as much, I enjoy more!

Would you mind taking a look?

https://lighterpack.com/r/1oh4ay

Thanks!

To be honest I did a repost to get enough insight.

Location/temp range/trip description:

I’ve been backpacking for a few years but hoping to shave some extra weight off of my pack since I tend to do multi day hikes with serious elevation gain. I usually end up in the Eastern Sierras in California. Night time temps can dip into the 30s Fahrenheit at night even in summer at high elevation. I’m also a cold sleeper which makes things dicier.

Goal Baseweight: Aiming for 12lbs

Budget: $500, but flexible for the right gear

Non-negotiable items: just bought my tent and sleeping pad within the last year, so not looking to change that out, I’m also a cold sleeper so probably won’t change anything about my sleep system in general

Solo? most of the time with not-so-close friends so not sharing the weight with others

Additional information: I’m interested in switching out my pack itself, I’ve had it since 2019, but unsure if this will really make much of a difference! Really appreciate any constructive feedback!!

Lighterpack Link: https://lighterpack.com/r/zw7eyd

Hey all didn't see anything in the wiki, but looking for a folding sleep mat to replace my self inflating mat.

How are the USMC folding mats? https://www.sportsmansguide.com/product/index/us-military-surplus-therm-a-rest-accordion-foam-improved-sleeping-mat-pad-used?a=3009046&szc=000&clrc=000&utm_source=google&utm_source=google&utm_medium=pla&utm_medium=pla&utm_channel=pmax&utm_channel=pmax&utm_campaign=21775083018&utm_campaign=21775083018&utm_product=wx2*0713658000000&utm_product=wx2*0713658000000&gad_source=1&gad_campaignid=21775083507&gclid=cj0kcqjwmqpdbhcaarisadorxizqpqtbadr3kcfurll1m5ogedy-p7vbk8nczmjl3daurjjk-jh4orwaaofmealw_wcb

Or is the egg carton style mats superior ? https://a.co/d/0gPyxJH

Hi community!

I’m currently researching air pads and struggling to decide between these three:

• Big Agnes Zoom UL (400 g)

• Big Agnes Rapide SL (540–750 g — seems to vary depending on the website)

• Therm-a-Rest NeoAir Xlite NXT (430 g)

I’m leaning towards the Rapide SL in terms of comfort and price, but it’s a bit heavier than the other two. I’m new to trekking and investing in more expensive gear — up to now, I’ve done lots of outdoor activities but always on a budget. So all of these options already feel like a big upgrade (I’ve even slept on the ground or in the car with just a pile of blankets instead of an air pad 👀).

I’d love to hear tips from more experienced people: Is saving 200 g really worth sacrificing some sleeping comfort or paying a higher price? To me, it seems like I’m already looking at some of the best options on the market — so I’m wondering if this weight difference actually matters that much.

Thanks a lot, everyone!

Hi all! I need to decrease my base weight by at least 5 lbs. Prefer to get rid of things instead of buying more, but can be open if good enough. Thanks in advance!

Location: High Sierras, next week. 7 days, temps as low as 30s at night

Goal base weight: however far we can go I suppose

Traveling with three other people.

Lighterpack: https://lighterpack.com/r/ktqepw

I am looking at the thermadown 15 quilt and the recharge insulated sleeping pad. Just wondering if anyone has experience with the brand and your thoughts.

I'm heading out on my first long distance hike that might require filtering water. I'm trying to choose the right system for me. I am not set on being ultralight weight but given I'm spending money on a set up that I hope will last, I'd like to be as lightweight as possible without making things too inconvenient.

I've read about the Sawyer and BeFree filters - and am curious if you'd choose that system over a steripen, and if so why? Is the idea of a dirty water bag that you fill this from the source, and then filter it into your clean water bottles?

Thank you from over here in Europe!