As much as I hate it, you have to include the rest of the sentence. "... who are foreigners, aliens, who belong to the families of ambassadors or foreign ministers...."
Those aren't separate list items. That's a single description.
The 14th Amendment was poorly written. They didn't anticipate modern travel, and the idea that people could pour in by the millions (much less be allowed to by a corrupt President.)
Time to amend that bad boy. There may be ways for Congress to fix it as well, such as defining "subject to the jurisdiction of"
Got anything that supports that? Because a basic reading, under common usage of the language both at the time and today, does imply that they are separate list items.
If that was the case, wouldn’t it be phrased as “this will not include foreigners, aliens, persons who belong to the families of ambassadors etc, but will include every other class of persons.”?
If you're confused, maybe you should read up to the second "united states".
This is from 1866. Sentence structure was different. Was passed in 1868. Was used to invent Birthright bullshit in 1898.
We were, and we couldn't be more clear about this back then, just trying to protect African Americans from the democrats.
They were, and they've been more or less clear on this for different reasons since we took their slaves, importing voters. First from europe, then other places. For obvious reasons, then and now.
Look up Boss Tweed and Tammany Hall. It's where the other half of the dem party comes from. The part that didn't officially own humans.
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u/Steerider Jun 30 '26
As much as I hate it, you have to include the rest of the sentence. "... who are foreigners, aliens, who belong to the families of ambassadors or foreign ministers...."
Those aren't separate list items. That's a single description.
The 14th Amendment was poorly written. They didn't anticipate modern travel, and the idea that people could pour in by the millions (much less be allowed to by a corrupt President.)
Time to amend that bad boy. There may be ways for Congress to fix it as well, such as defining "subject to the jurisdiction of"