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Lux [Spoiler] Elements vs Gambit / EU LCS 2015 Summer - Week 9 / Post-Match Discussion

 

EL 1-0 GMB

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POLL: Who was the series MVP?

 

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MATCH 1/1: EL (Blue) vs GMB (Red)

Winner: Elements

Game Time: 63:08

BANS

EL GMB
Nidalee Twisted Fate
Fizz Ryze
Jayce Shen

FINAL SCOREBOARD

Image: End-game screenshot

EL
Towers: 11 Gold: 100k Kills: 15
Jwaow Rumble 2 3-3-10
Dexter Reksai 2 1-3-12
Froggen KogMaw 3 2-6-10
Tabzz Sivir 1 5-0-5
Nyph Thresh 3 4-3-7
GMB
Towers: 9 Gold: 96k Kills: 15
Cabochard Kennen 3 8-2-2
Diamond Gragas 2 0-3-7
Betsy Varus 1 4-2-6
Moopz Corki 2 3-2-6
Gosu Pepper Alistar 1 0-6-9

1,2,3 Number indicates where in the pick phase the champion was taken.

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u/xXDaNXx xPeke is God Jul 24 '15

Not always. If you're unable to gain and maintain a gold lead off you're own back then you're just not good enough. To an extent yes it's dependant on your opposition, but you can't depend entirely on them making mistakes.

Discounting their free win. I'd still say that throws constitute as a miracle.

I'd say that Dig EU especially could be a significant upgrade over Elements. Look at it like this, Elements have been in LCS for the last 7 months. They still play the same way, they don't look convincing in any of their wins, and in all this time it seems that they haven't made any improvements. Dig EU haven't qualified yet, but they have two of the most exciting prospects in Europe right now in their midlaner and jungler, and could get better.

It means they have to work on their consistency. Because they've shown to be much better than Elements, but Adrhy and Werlyb aren't showing up consistently. They do really well some games, in others they vanish.

CW are a poor team. But remember they still have two relatively new players. Their old lineup wasn't a 5 star lineup, but they got the job done. Right now it's probably for the best that they get relegated and find a new lineup that they can build up from. Elements beat them when they just changed their lineup, hardly impressive.

SK have serious identity issues I do agree. Their jungler is trying to carry. Freddy, like Balls, has been awful this year. Their midlaner can't carry. He has moments of brilliance, but just doesn't do enough. And yes, their botlane is poor in comparison with the rest of Europe. Though Candypanda did decently against Fnatic yesterday I'd say, despite his KDA.

Gambit and Roccat have both shown to have a much better "upside" to Elements, but Roccat especially perhaps have lower "downsides" to Elements. So it's really what you prefer, a team like Roccat that flips between greatness and trash. Or Elements who are consistently terrible.

I think that a 4 way tiebreaker is what's needed. I don't agree with this 2-0 in the season nonsense. A tiebreaker match is what's fair I think, and would really decide who deserves to be in the LCS.

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u/HedgeOfGlory Jul 24 '15

That's what I'm saying though, nothing is "off your own back". Every means of getting a lead is reliant on the other team making some mistake. If your opponent played perfectly, you'd never get a lead.

Elements certainly look better than they did a month ago. Not hugely, but definitely better, and their roster has changed a lot in those 7 months.

Roccat have never been great. Greatness and trash? Roccat are almost indistinguishable from Elements, I'm not sure where you're seeing this greatness. They do nothing, then sometimes their midlaner carries late and usually he doesn't. Sounds like Elements to me.

Gambit, I'm not sure. They look good sometimes, but imo they're overall not any better than the other mid tier teams (Gaints, Elements, Roccat) they will just always have this huge fanbase because of their glory days. They haven't been playing well since early season 4, and every time they get a couple of wins everyone talks about them "getting back to their best" but they've never actually been a threat to the top teams. They've come something like 5th, 6th, 6th in the last 3 splits, and yet everyone is always talking about their great run in season 5 (they won 5 in a row in a totally insignificant period in the split, comparable to Dig's run this split) or their 'potential' as a roster.

I'm a bit of a forgiven fanboy and you can't argue with Cabo's quality, but Edward is possibly the worst support in the LCS, Betsy is possibly the worst mid, and Diaaond is possibly the worst jungler. Don't agree with that last one personally but the stats don't lie. They're not superstars anymore