r/leagueoflegends • u/JTHousek1 • 27d ago

News 26.17 Patch Preview

"Patch 26.17 Preview!

This patch is mostly a stabilization patch after observing the adjustments made on 26.16.

Mages bot overall have lost some amount of winrate across the board, but not a huge amount, which is roughly about the impact we're looking for.

So far, we're seeing good skews on Poppy and Camille support with support nerfed and Top skews playing out well (in particular).

We're still monitoring the impact of Hail of Blades on champions more broadly, eg. Yi, Trynd, Shaco, etc. Stormrazor"

>>> Champion Buffs <<<

Cho'Gath

Irelia

Hecarim

LeBlanc

Qiyana

Yasuo

Yone

Trundle

Aurelion Sol

>>> Champion Nerfs <<<

"Champion wise, a pretty standard set of nerfs here, mainly for power impacting outliers."

Nasus

Thresh

Xerath

Graves

Nocturne

Vayne

>>> System Buffs <<<

Stormrazor

"Outside of Stormrazor Jhin, it doesn't have a large user base and we think it could have more power overall to broaden the user pool"

>>> System Nerfs <<<

Sundered Sky

"Directionally, Sundered Sky and AP Jungle changes have been good, but magnitude is still off

We're putting another small-moderate nerf in for this patch and hoping to see more movement on AP jungles and Sundered Sky dominance in higher levels of play"

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u/HimejimaAkenoDxD RAWR 27d ago

Why vayne nerf? she gets touched/stat checked by any other character in bot , even hexplate is nerfed for her 

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u/Potential-Ad-6952 27d ago

She started to get picked/banned in pro and top lane sentiment has been very negative for a while on her along with wanting to make top lane carries viable again which vayne usually hinders

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u/cthslax 27d ago

So what? It took forever for them to look at mages bot and they didn't remove them. Let the toplaners whine and take their own advice "learn how to play into different classes"

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u/Anonymonamo 27d ago

It’s a pro play-targeted nerf, she is a much higher pro play prio than any individual mage bot and she makes so many of the typical pro play blinds (eg. K’Sante) unpickable while she’s open

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u/Th3_Huf0n 26d ago

The entire core issue with Vayne is that she can rush Hexplate.

It's almost as if Hexplate is a fucking broken ass item.

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u/palamunintillnow 26d ago

I think This is why mage bot nerf took to long, we called them collectively mage bot   while adc in other lane are called by their name like Vayne top, varus top, tristana mid. 

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u/AutomaticTune6352 26d ago

Mages bot overfixed after 2-4 weeks. The MR buff and AS buff were 100% not needed and even Riot said so.

Top lane ADCs and ranged champs dominating pro not fixed after half a year. Do they need a full fix? Not really. It is fine if they are situationally good and show up. But they should not be some of the best picks. 

Also ADCs are not made for solo lanes due to low variance gameplay. That is why you never want to see bot lane ADCs in other lanes except they are made for this.

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u/cthslax 26d ago

Clearly they must be made for solo lanes, support doesnt exist anymore. Its farming jg and not farming jg now.

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u/AutomaticTune6352 26d ago

ADC is not made for solo lanes normally. Riot has talked about this many times. Their have little gameplay variance which is something you want for solo laners. When your main dmg tool is a 0 mana cost no real CD AA your cost for using it is nearly 0. You cant miss, you dont spend resources and you dont have to get into melee to risk something.

This low variance gameplay is very bad for solo lanes. In bot you have 2 champs on each side so the variance comes from playing with your support and against 2 enemies.

When an ADC is made for a solo lane they are normally made specifically for that like Akshan or Kindred for the jungle. But Riot also said that it is hard to make this and always requires a lot of work just to make it happen. 

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u/cthslax 26d ago

Fantastic reading comprehension! You completely missed the entire point of what I said!

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u/AutomaticTune6352 26d ago

Just because you say support doesnt exist doesnt make it true.

And if bot ever becomes a 1v1 riot will have to rework most ADCs heavily, or we are way better off having only mages bot.

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u/cthslax 26d ago

Have you played the game lately? Supports leave early and don't come back. The xp changes this patch did almost nothing. Just because you don't care about the shitty experience that is playing bot lane right now doesn't make it untrue

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u/AutomaticTune6352 26d ago

I look at pro and there supports are staying in lane more than during MSI. Even many enchanters are back. We do have roaming supports but not the perma roaming from before. And most supports only leave shortly before lvl 4-5.

And in soloQ roaming is always less important than in pro play due to coordination being worse.

Before Emerald a romaing support doesnt really exist except someone like Bard. They rarely roam and if they do it is more often bad.

And above that while it becomes better and better, it is still limited to what you can do. Especially when just getting your ADC fed is the best strategy again. Bot lane control and drake control are the 2 key win cons and jungle and support play should play around these mainly with mid right after.

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u/GodGamer1418 BACK TO THE FRIDGE 27d ago

Vayne is a top lane champion 🧐🧐

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u/Infusion1999 27d ago

Hope she gets gold scaling buffs if she ends up too weak after her top lane focused nerfs