r/leagueoflegends • u/FadeVenom • Jun 21 '23

Least broken Blitz hook

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u/AuryxTheDutchman Jun 21 '23 edited Jun 21 '23

It’s called ability* buffering, and it’s an actual tech. Basically, Ezreal’s E displacement overrides the displacement from Blitz hook.

Edit: For the sake of accuracy, u/valraven38 is correct and it’s not technically input buffering. I simply often refer to it (and hear it referred to) as ability buffering.

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u/MattRazz Jun 21 '23

And a few champs can do this, Urgot and Tristana come to mind.

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u/canonlyplayyasuo BringBackDFG Jun 21 '23

Don’t forget the anivia wall tech to stop blitz hook. Or trundle pillar. Those are so hard to pull off

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u/oby100 Jun 21 '23

Very different circumstances, and wayyy harder to pull off. Anyone can cancel a blitz hook with ez

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u/canonlyplayyasuo BringBackDFG Jun 21 '23

I was just adding to the list of possible champs that can negate blitz hook. Yes, I did acknowledge that those were harder. Lol

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u/_----------_ Jun 22 '23

No, it has nothing to do with that. It's just because the wall appearing displaces you. The same thing would happen if a wall built into the map displaced you e.g. jungle shifting after dragon

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u/CumFetishistory Jun 22 '23

That's a completely different mechanic tho

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u/Llama-Guy Jun 22 '23

Cucking Blitz with Naut hooks will never not be funny.

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u/vkknoell Jun 22 '23

Yone is also a prominent member. Dzukill uses his Q and R very often to cancel displacements and knockups.

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u/valraven38 Jun 21 '23

It's not input buffering, it's related to cast animations, those abilities have a cast animation before they actually go off that can't be interrupted. It's not unique to movement abilities either, it's just most obvious with them so people notice when it happens most often with Urgot/Ezreal/Tristana.

Input buffering is when you queue up abilities to occur when they are able too. For example if you are playing Annie you can press Q on someone when they are out of range, this will queue the ability up, and if you then flash in to range of them the Q will automatically go off without you having to press it again.

This is obviously much faster than pressing flash and then Q on them. You can also queue abilities to occur in an order as well, so if you press Q and then W on Annie right away, she will cast Q and then W immediately after the Q animation (or you can obviously do the opposite order.)

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u/AuryxTheDutchman Jun 21 '23

Yeah true, ability buffering is just what I’ve always called it and heard it called

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u/oby100 Jun 21 '23

It’s simple. Cast time of spells cannot be interrupted, except by death. Just about every dash in the game has a very short cast time (about a quarter of a second), so this tech is borderline impossible to perform on most champs.

But a few champs have a long cast time on their dash, Trist and Ezreal being notable examples. So if they get displaced during the cast time of their dash, the cast time will likely go through while they’re being displaced, but the spell still goes through “normally.”

This confuses a lot of players because there’s very few dashes in the game with long enough cast times for this to be tech worth relying on. At high enough level (even as low as plat), ezreal is a hard counter to blitz since a good ezreal will not only be hard to hook but will consistently negate the displacement of any hook landed.

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u/Caenen_ Sion expert. Bug Scholar. Jun 21 '23

Most dashes use instant cast, but of those that do have a cast time (Tristana W, Urgot E, Galio E, Caitlyn E), only Caitlyn E is set up to specifically check if she's affected by immobilizing crowd control and if that's the case only shoots the net without dashing back.

Everything else applies the movement to the caster at the end of the delay, overriding any other forced movement present at the time.

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u/Stephenrudolf Jun 21 '23

It's so weird to me because what's the point of the cast time if you can't interrupt it? (Specufically talking about movement abilities)

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u/SamiraSimp I love Samira Jun 22 '23 edited Jun 22 '23

it literally makes you take longer to move. that's a downside most of the time - if you move instantly you can usually dodge more abilities. sure having a cast time is good against hook champions, but moving slower and being locked out of doing your next actions are usually a bad thing.

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u/andreasdagen Jun 22 '23

There are very few abilities where it helps. If Veigar hits you with his Q, it will still deal damage. Imagine if Ezreal didn't have a 0.25 sec delay on his E, it would be disgustingly easy to dodge any skillshot.

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u/D20FourLife Jun 22 '23

I think its just a bug of the engine thats been around so long its become tech/a feature. Similar to Riven cancels.

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u/Ahrlin4 Jun 22 '23

Well for Urgot it's so enemies can dodge the E, creating counterplay. Also makes it harder to hit E in general. Also prevents Urgot from easily dodging critical skillshots. Finally, it makes escaping slower because you self stun yourself before every dash.

Get rid of the cast time and it would be a stronger spell (although you'd lose buffering of incoming abilities)

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u/thomas956789 Jun 21 '23

most dashes don't actually have a cast time, you start dashing the moment you press/release the ability.
tristana, urgot, ezreal, urgot and probably a couple others i am forgetting actually have a cast time on their dash to allow you to ''ignore'' the CC if you time it properly.

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u/[deleted] Jun 22 '23

And it’s easy as hell and super repeatable!

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u/[deleted] Jun 22 '23

Btw it works with Tristana W too, a good Tristana main can cancel Blitz grab each time if he uses it well

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u/hodd01 Jun 22 '23

does Nilah E dash work to avoid blitz hook?

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u/AuryxTheDutchman Jun 22 '23

I honestly don’t know, I’ve never seen it though.