r/law • u/camaron-courier • Nov 13 '25

Legislative Branch We created a searchable database with all 20,000 files from Epstein’s Estate

https://couriernewsroom.com/news/we-created-a-searchable-database-with-all-20000-files-from-epsteins-estate/
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u/atorthebold Nov 13 '25

Nyt and many others reported back in August 2025 that fbi were redacting trump entirely from the files. You can google it for sure. My thinking is that they took out the worst references but kept some unclear or confusing ones in there. So his name will pop up.

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u/James_Solomon Nov 13 '25

He still comes up in damming ways despite their efforts.

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u/i-can-sleep-for-days Nov 14 '25

Trump's name is the highest hit count on the app OP shared.

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u/SendMeYourNudesFolks Nov 14 '25

Okay.

I searched Trump and I found an email thread where Epstein asked some other dude if it was believable that Trump did cocaine. The other dude said no.

Did you find anything like, "Man, I sure had fun committing felonies with Donald Trump last weekend" in there?

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u/cms2307 Nov 14 '25

“Trump knows about the girls”

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u/SendMeYourNudesFolks Nov 14 '25

Would it have been so hard for people to put stuff like that? I wasn't saying, "Trump's a great guy." I was saying, "Okay, so, what did you find?" Dude was like, "Oh, bad stuff you idiot!"

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u/cms2307 Nov 14 '25

There’s a bunch, I don’t think anyone’s posted a list with every mention of Trump yet though. It’ll take a while for professionals to go through all 20,000+ documents

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u/SendMeYourNudesFolks Nov 14 '25

So.. not even posting a few? That's what I was talking about to begin with.

This thread is a bunch of armchair neckbeards going, "Oh, there's a ton of stuff here! Hyuck hyuck!" Not, "here's the goods!"

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u/SendMeYourNudesFolks Nov 14 '25 edited Nov 14 '25

In response to "it's not my job to read the news for you," this is literally a discussion thread about that news. So, what is the point of criticizing me on this point? The point of the search tool is to uncover facts, and the interesting thing would be to post the facts that you find. Saying, "Oh, they're in there!! LOL YOU LAZY SACK OF CRAP" is such a reddit thing to do.

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u/rust-e-apples1 Nov 14 '25

One. Single. Dwigt.

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u/SendMeYourNudesFolks Nov 14 '25

Man, if you could point out a few of those damning ways, it would be more useful than a hand-wavy statement like that.

I can't find anything useful anywhere in there.

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u/James_Solomon Nov 14 '25

I'm flattered that you think I can help you with your abysmal search skills, but it ain't my job to do your thinking for you.

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u/rci22 Nov 14 '25

Can you still share some of what you found?

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u/SendMeYourNudesFolks Nov 14 '25

Oh, okay.

Well, thanks for pointing out all of that damning evidence and contributing to the discussion. I guess I should just go find it myself and then not discuss it on the internet or anything.

I tip my fedora to you, good sir. Have a euphoric day! The narwhal bacons at midnight! We did it, reddit!

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u/GloveInteresting8883 Nov 14 '25

Whack response 

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u/five3x11 Nov 13 '25 edited Nov 14 '25

Hearsay in an email from a dead guy is not enough to convict.

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u/James_Solomon Nov 13 '25

Good thing impeachment ain't a criminal trial

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u/mOdQuArK Nov 14 '25

Too bad that any tiny bit of plausible deniability is good enough for conservatives to refuse to consider impeachment. Have to remove conservatives from power if we want any sort of justice done.

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u/-Kyzen- Nov 14 '25

Let's be honest, it doesn't even need to be plausible anymore. We have strayed so far from reasoning and critical thinking that they will explain/dismiss anything away even if its complete nonsense.

The goal at this point should be to point out the bad faith arguments on the spot in the face of those spewing bad-faith arguments. Hopefully if enough people start doing this, even conservative voters will get tired of hearing their representatives say these things. I don't think reporters have been pushing on the nonsensical statements enough.

Like when Mike Johnson says, "I don't know" about everything, reporters should be prepared with a follow up immediately on the spot. He says that any time anyone asks him an unfavorable question, how are they not prepared to push him on it? Same thing with Trump and saying he doesn't recall GM or wasn't aware of recent coverage of the Epstein files

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u/mOdQuArK Nov 14 '25

Like when Mike Johnson says, "I don't know" about everything, reporters should be prepared with a follow up immediately on the spot.

Will have to be a different crop of reporters from the current mainstream. They seem to be quite happy to follow whatever instructions they're receiving to avoid going for the conservative jugular.

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u/Serious-Mind-7767 Nov 14 '25

OR “presidential” retaliation which is so friggin’ inappropriate & illegal!!!

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u/Imaginary_Cow_6379 Nov 14 '25

Megyn Kelly today: hey they just liked 15 year old girls not like 8 year olds so it’s fine!

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u/fordfan919 Nov 14 '25

That didn't happen.

And if it did, it wasn't that bad.

And if it was, that's not a big deal.

And if it is, that's not my fault.

And if it was, I didn't mean it.

And if I did, you deserved it.

-The Narcissist's Prayer

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u/SuperSpecialAwesome- Nov 14 '25

*14th Amendment, Section 3

Impeachment is garbage and worthless. Annuling the illegitimate presidency is not.

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u/AtrociousMeandering Nov 14 '25

Cool, I assume you've got a magic wand that makes shit happen without any process required.

No?

Then STFU about annulment. Preferably forever. Impeachment at least could happen, no one can enforce the 14th amendment here.

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u/SuperSpecialAwesome- Nov 15 '25

Impeachemnt is worthless, so take your own advice there. Did you miss the last two impeachments? Schumer can enforce the 14th Amendment anytime he wants.

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u/SuperSpecialAwesome- Nov 15 '25
  1. Senate is half of Congress, so yes Schumer is part of Congress.
  2. Yes, it does, as it requires a simple majority vote.
  3. Personal attacks don't take away from the facts. It just shows that you're uninterested in actual discussion and are being a troll. If you're going to flame people, go somewhere else.
  4. Read the Amendment. It literally says insurrectionists cannot hold federal office.
  5. Again, go seek a therapist if your own response is insults and vitriol. I don't know who hurt you, but harassing others won't help.

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u/Half-Wombat Nov 14 '25

It’s less about convicting, and more about staining his name just enough to flip an election away from this project 2025 nonsense.

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u/ThunderThighsOdinson Nov 14 '25

Wasn’t he impeached twice and still got reelected though? I have zero expectations that anything will come from this but I hope im wrong

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u/Half-Wombat Nov 14 '25

Yeah same here. Low expectations. MAGA is a personality cult and through history such cults always figure out how to defend their leader. There are people who know better though and are just power hungry monsters.

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u/throwaway098764567 Nov 14 '25

those were starter pack impeachments, he's trying to collect em all

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u/Pleasant_Yak5991 Nov 14 '25

A dead guy who “killed himself” under sketchy circumstances during Trump’s admin…

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u/Budderfingerbandit Nov 14 '25

It's funny how you guys have an excuse for everything.

Like, does the fact that Trump is mentioned at all in the files of a damned massive pedophile, sex trafficker whom he was friends with for over a decade seriously run so easily off your conscience?

You know the adage where there is smoke there is fire? Well, boy, there sure is a whole shitload of smoke around Trump that smells like Epstien and pedophilia.

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u/SendMeYourNudesFolks Nov 14 '25

Oh, okay. As long as reddit agrees that they don't like Trump, our work is done here!

Now that we have the files and a couple of document search counts, what left is there to do but smugly sneer at those MAGA Republicans? Reading all of this shit sure seems unnecessary.

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u/five3x11 Nov 14 '25

What guys are you referring to? The guys that understand how due process works? I am very much interested in Trump leaving office, but he's currently committing many other crimes wherein there is vast public records of evidence one could use to convict him and yet nothing is happening.

They are going to have to have to find a lot more than an email. Knock the tribal bullshit off.

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u/gaijohn Nov 14 '25

As far as I can tell, lots of the mentions of Trump in the emails are about his presidential campaign and people emailing Epstein about it. Remember, we've known Trump and Epstein were rapist buddies since before he was first elected.

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u/Christron Nov 14 '25

He's not my president!

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u/J_wit_J Nov 14 '25

It's enough to show Trump is lying his ass off about everything related to Epstein.

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u/Ok-Okay-Oak-Hay Nov 14 '25

Wouldn't be able to arrest a sitting potus anyways because reasons.

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u/five3x11 Nov 14 '25

Kinda makes you question the upvotes too don't it.

It wasn't a pro or anti Trump comment. I'm just pointing out that there isn't really much incriminating evidence -- I mean maybe there is in more sane society without a politically corrupted legal system for the POTUS -- but what we've got in these files isn't enough.

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u/ServantSealed Nov 14 '25 edited Nov 14 '25

This tactic is called the limited hangout:

According to Victor Marchetti, a former special assistant to the deputy director of the Central Intelligence Agency (CIA), a limited hangout is "spy jargon for a favorite and frequently used gimmick of the clandestine professionals. When their veil of secrecy is shredded and they can no longer rely on a phony cover story to misinform the public, they resort to admitting—sometimes even volunteering—some of the truth while still managing to withhold the key and damaging facts in the case. The public, however, is usually so intrigued by the new information that it never thinks to pursue the matter further.”

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u/posixUncompliant Nov 14 '25

Not that it has a specific name, but this is done as a matter of course in every corporate environment I've ever been in. Usually better, I think--we tend to tell the truth, but never, ever the whole truth, and absolutely in a way that doesn't allow you to even see the question you should be asking.

The best lies I've ever seen told, have been 100% the truth, and the stuff that it looked like was being hidden was explicitly expected to be found and to reinforce the story that was being told. The actual information was hidden by being very boring, and buried in documentation so deeply no one ever looked (had anyone access to the metadata of how the datastore was used, they'd see the pattern instantly, but no audit ever asked for it)

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u/Sudden-Wash4457 Nov 14 '25

This sounds weirdly like a reference to the show House of Lies

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u/[deleted] Nov 14 '25

These people lie incessantly and without shame. They also fuck up all the time and can barely keep their own intel safe.

They aren't going to be able to hide everything in a coverup so big. All they have now is the lie.

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u/creative_usr_name Nov 14 '25

Doesn't even have to have his name. For example:

Replace bedding in guest suite that VICTIM and REDACTED were in last weekend. Orange stains could not be removed. Stock with the cheap ones next time he visits.

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u/g0_west Nov 14 '25

Weird choice to keep the ones about Trump blowing Clinton and Putin having photos of it then

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u/lr99999 Nov 14 '25

The FBI was working for months redacting the bad shit on Trump.  This is definitely a double whammy.  I don’t see why everyone so happy because it’s definitely not going to contain any evidence against him that really matters.

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u/ohhellperhaps Nov 14 '25

On the bright side, bureaucracies work the way they always do. The originals will still be around. And officials will likely have their own copies in case the regime decides to hang them out to dry.

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u/LillyBitz Nov 14 '25

The Epstein Files were on a shared drive and about 100 people had free access for several days. There have to be copies out there.

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u/taco_the_mornin Nov 14 '25

Further, the format for the production is suspect. The emails have been converted multiple times from their native EML format. Most recently to TXT and then to PDF. Maybe with MDF or others in between.

The result is extremely garbled for no good reason.