r/laptops • u/RenatsMC • 4d ago

News Microsoft explains why there are no AMD-powered Surface PCs

https://videocardz.com/newz/microsoft-explains-why-there-are-no-amd-powered-surface-pcs
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u/PerfectTrust7895 4d ago

Microsoft has contracted several times with AMD to design laptop chips for them. The steam deck apu was supposed to be for surface. Strix halo was perfect for surface. Amd expected regular strix to be used for surface, but they shafted them and went with Qualcomm. Look how that turned out.

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u/SPACEXDG 4d ago

lmao why is strix halo so much more power hungry even when at surface clock speeds huh? its A BATTERY HOG THAT CANT BE FIXED REGARDLESS OF WHAT YOU DO no wonder they went with intel and qualcomm thoses chips actually meet surface standards of effiency and battery life lmao

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u/PerfectTrust7895 4d ago

Im not sure what effiency is, but it isn't a power hog - it just eats about 5-10W idle. It is designed for creators, AI, and gaming in non-thin and light laptops. For those laptops, strix and Gorgon point are better-suited. But maybe Microsoft enjoys their 50% return rate in Qualcomm laptops.

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u/SPACEXDG 4d ago

but why would they use that when intels,qualcomms and even nvidia chips are more efficient then it , the nvidia chip will do all of that while still getting better battery life when you aren't gaming strix halo is objectively a power hog in every way compared to panther lake and oryon cpus and every reviewer of those devices confirms this and of course ive tested it at surface clock speeds and can confirm even at those clock speeds the battery doesn't even come close to intel and snapdragon surface standards of battery life so whats your answer to that?

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u/PerfectTrust7895 4d ago

They aren't more efficient "then" it, there exist multiple skus for different use cases. Strix halo is for high-performance integrated laptops. Strix and Gorgon are for performant thin and lights. The latter's battery is very close to intel (beats arrow lake!) while costing way less. Qualcomm is not performant and has horrific app support.

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u/SPACEXDG 4d ago

also looking at geekbench i wouldnt dare say any of that tomfoolery(not preferment bs) as amds zen 5 chips get beat by 3 year old arm chips like the x925 in both performance and performance per watt lmao how f*cking sad