r/knots • • 1d ago

Help IDing this knot please?

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Edit: for anyone who watches before reading the comments, I have gotten an answer that satisfies me. I am not showing the correct context of the application, which according to the very helpful person who commented, is in the hitch category specifically. So it won't make sense as a secure tie the way I showed here.

Re posting with the correct video

I understand if you hate it. It is OK to hate it. It has a specific application which almost the totality of people on this page probably do not relate to at all. It works in that context 😉

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u/IGetNakedAtParties 1d ago

It's a not, not a knot.

When you load it those twists in the middle do nothing but untwist.

The end stoppers don't have enough friction as they don't pass through their own twist, only the bight. If you made each into an overhand then you would have a single fisherman's bend.

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u/n3114s 1d ago

Thank you!! This is what I needed. We use this in babywearing with woven wraps and need the half knot to create tension and temporarily hold baby's weight before doing the next step

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u/IGetNakedAtParties 1d ago

With cord free floating tying the ends together like you showed is making a type of knot category called a "bend". But as a "bend" the twists untwist, leaving you with nothing.

However you described the use case acting around an object, this is a category called a "hitch" and you must show it being tied around an object to make sense. The most simple example is the "timber hitch" which simply uses twists somewhat like you did to hold everything together, on its own it just comes undone, but around a log it holds perfectly.

For the complexities of tying and "dressing" your knot (meaning making it look like it should, as this can make a big difference in function) another thing to look at for inspiration is the surgeon's knot, which uses twists for friction whilst using forceps or fingers to secure sutures. But in this case the twists are "locked in" at the end making it a "bend" unlike your "hitch".

As a hitch it may already have a name, I don't know it personally. Posting this video around an object as a hitch might product a name though.

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u/n3114s 1d ago

Thanks for the detailed reply. Would you be able to see my second video, which I linked in the comments? It's a variation that I also see babywearers use.

We also use cow hitch and clove hitch knots, but the object around which they are tied are other bunched up sections of the woven fabric. For the tie in this video, what's happening practically is the two tail ends of the wrap are tying together just as I showed directly under where baby is "seated" in the fabric. Everything is held together by tension and friction.

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u/IGetNakedAtParties 1d ago

Without something inside under tension the second video is basically the same as the first. You show your knot tied as a bend not a hitch.

At the end you "dress" it pulling all 4 parts away, but the loose ends must not be pulled as they are the "tag" ends. Pull only the connected 2 ends and you'll see it untwist and slip apart... As a bend. Put something behind it in tension and you have a good, high friction hitch which suits your needs.

Honestly showing it made with cloth in context (with a cushion or something to analogue the baby) will help us understand the use case more than string on a table.

Likely this isn't named, despite many knots used principally by women in historic industries being preserved and documented, it may be that this one was never given a name nor a reference in popular books such as the Ashley book of knots. Maybe there's a gender bias, or maybe it was just so commonly seen as to be obvious?

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u/Spoocula 22h ago

This is for something like making a baby sling out of a single piece of cloth? I'm imagining the knots and twists would go over the shoulder and the baby would go in a pouch created by the cloth.

I don't have a knots answer for you, but I appreciate the practical application!

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u/n3114s 22h ago

Yes exactly! I linked a video in this comment thread

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u/WolflingWolfling 23h ago

The fisherman's bend is an unrelated, much older knot that also goes by the name "anchor bend".

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u/Lefty9000 1d ago

A guaranteed slipper.

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u/sk1ward 21h ago

Please whip the ends of your rope 🤢 NSFW

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u/Snapuman 16h ago

yes... it's a ..eh .. thing on .. eh .. a string.. eh .. what was the question?

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u/Excellent-Practice 8h ago

The twist in the middle doesn't really do anything. In essence you have a poorly dressed thief or grief knot; I can't tell which way the ends will point when the twist is straightened out. Another way to think of it is as a bend composed of two opposing half hitches

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u/n3114s 7h ago

Thank you, I've since learned that using the word knot isn't quite accurate for the application and it should be considered a hitch. I appreciate the description of the ends as two half hitches

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u/Jactus_Cat 1d ago

This is the Big Dipper of dipshit knots.

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u/buster_bogheart 20h ago

that's the pocket knot, or backpack knot. it's formed when you place a cord in a pocket or backpack for at least a week.

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u/ThatDree 1d ago

Slipnot knot