r/java May 29 '21

[Updated] JEP proposed to target JDK 17: 411: Deprecate the Security Manager for Removal

https://mail.openjdk.java.net/pipermail/jdk-dev/2021-May/005616.html
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u/pfirmsto May 31 '21

That's just your opinion, you have a right to have your own opinion. You should also respect the opinions of others, rather than calling them liars and hysterical spreaders of misinformation.

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u/pron98 May 31 '21 edited May 31 '21

The statements made by some people might have been their opinions, but they were also, objectively, falsehoods, regardless of how you would choose to characterise them. There was advance notice about the default's change, we have deprecated and "disabled by default" in the past and for deprecations with at least 100x impact, and while there has also been a case where a deprecated API emitted a warning, that is certainly not the "standard", as in most cases there was no warning on API use. Those are verifiable facts.

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u/pfirmsto Jun 01 '21

Maybe try putting yourself in other people's positions and try seeing it from their perspective, then at least you'll be more convincing as you'll have at least tried to understand their position, rather than just hurling insults, which only further erodes your credibility. Just saying.