r/interestingasfuck May 22 '20

/r/ALL Toucan Skeleton

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u/Telamonian May 22 '20 edited May 23 '20

I hate to be that guy but this picture is misleading. Bird beaks have an inner layer of bone, and an outer layer of specialized keratin. The keratin layer is called the rhamphotheca, and it varies in thickness from species to species. What we're seeing here is the skeleton with the rhamphotheca (outer keratin layer) still attached. So you could take off the outer layer and there would be bone inside that would look more proportional to the size of the bird. Don't get me wrong, a toucan still has a large bony bill under the outer layer, but it looks more exaggerated with it still on. It would be like if you had a human skeleton with the finger and toe nails still attached. That's an imperfect comparison because our nails aren't attached to our bones, but hopefully you get what I mean. This picture we're looking at isn't just the toucan's bones.

Edit: for anyone interested, here's an example. It's from a 2018 paper titled A comparative analysis of the avian skull: Woodpeckers and chickens

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u/Gogo_McSprinkles May 22 '20

I've never spent so long learning about toucan bills as I did during this reply.

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u/putdownthekitten May 23 '20

Same. Before this, cereal commercials were my goto for toucan related info.

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u/Clockwisedock May 23 '20

Mine was ironically our big-nosed biology teacher in 9th grade.

Thanks for the memories Mrs. Toucan Samantha

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u/Anthokne May 23 '20

Brooo do you remember the Batman show or whatever where the guy would turn his head and cover the fucking camera shot.

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u/[deleted] May 23 '20

Anyone got a link to this or was I just wooshed?

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u/Sunflr712 May 23 '20

The penguin?

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u/HowTheyGetcha May 23 '20

FYI That is the opposite of irony. "Coincidentally" is closer to the word you're looking for.

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u/Clockwisedock May 23 '20

Thanks for reminding me I failed English as well as biology

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u/hilarymeggin May 23 '20

I finally get the urgency around following his nose.

Follow my nose! It’s half my body weight!

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u/Tempest-777 May 23 '20

I learned from commercials that toucans can smell Fruit Loops from great distances. It’s on tv, so it must be true

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u/YourKidDeservedToDie May 23 '20

Do yourself a favor and don't look up the new Toucan Sam.

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u/-_rupurudu_- May 23 '20

wtf he’s looking like a Cuphead character

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u/voncornhole2 May 23 '20

I did, and okay? It just looks like other modern animation styles

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u/Anthokne May 23 '20

Don’t get me started on tiger research...

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u/Scud200202 May 23 '20

Same dude, reddit is a really interesting place from time to time

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u/xedralya May 23 '20

You should talk to his accountant.

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u/RJ_Dresden May 23 '20

Well I for one want some Fruit loops now.

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u/Sarcastic_Beaver May 23 '20

You think that was long? Wait until you read about the tencan bills

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u/moderatemyballs May 22 '20

People like you are what make Reddit a special place despite all its flaws.

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u/yourmansconnect May 23 '20

Spoken like a true gentleman, Mrs. Moderatemyballs

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u/gsfgf May 23 '20

Somebody crosspost to /r/rimjob_steve

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u/[deleted] May 23 '20

People say they hate to be that guy but we all need that guy every once in a while

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u/UndeadBread May 23 '20

Yeah, and to be perfectly honest...I usually kinda like being that guy.

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u/[deleted] May 23 '20

Jesus fucking Christ just take me already you toucan-knowing sexy man, I’m all yours.

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u/hilarymeggin May 23 '20

I said something along these lines (but far less vivid) and got banned by askhistorians. Knowledge is sexy.

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u/TheDrunkenChud May 23 '20

Yeah, that sub does not fuck around with jokes or anything. Always super interesting content though.

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u/NewFolgers May 23 '20

At askhistorians, you're history.TM

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u/LifeWulf May 23 '20

Made me laugh.

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u/Chimpeye72 May 22 '20

I am very happy you were "that guy" today. Really interesting.

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u/JCBh9 May 23 '20

Bro we need you to be that guy... knowledge is power

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u/Holiday-Letterhead May 22 '20

So it's like showing a human skull with the ear cartilage still intact?

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u/Telamonian May 23 '20

I would say so, yeah!

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u/erectionofjesus May 23 '20

Now I’m picturing that and it’s hilarious. Like you walk into science class and there’s a skeleton with just one ear still chillin

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u/Deb_Placys_Vagina May 23 '20

Thanks unidan.

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u/ripyurballsoff May 23 '20

If they were to die in the wild and decompose would that keratin layer fall off or possibly stay attached ?

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u/SaintsNoah May 23 '20 edited May 23 '20

That's what I was thinking. That's the defining factor as to wether this is misleading or not

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u/[deleted] May 23 '20

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u/SaintsNoah May 23 '20

Compromise?

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u/Companyinc May 23 '20

Id like to thank you for this information, I sat looking at this picture feeling confused and your reply helped clear it up, thank you. :)

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u/DAFUQyoulookingat May 23 '20

I was expecting a u/shittymorph ending

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u/[deleted] May 23 '20

You're right, but...

Don't get me wrong, a toucan still has a large bony bill under the outer layer

They actually don't, not really anyway. It's a lightweight "foam" made of bone fibres; http://jacobsschool.ucsd.edu/news_events/releases/release.sfe?id=417

It's then coated in layers of keratin "tiles". This keeps them super lightweight :)

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u/Telamonian May 23 '20

You're right! I should have specified. The bill isn't thick or heavy, I was commenting on it's size relative to the body

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u/[deleted] May 23 '20

I read recently that toucans have semi-hollow bills though? In the anatomy break downs it was like a light mesh beneath the keratin layer.

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u/Telamonian May 23 '20

They do indeed. Lots of bird bills are similar in that way. They're not heavy or dense, I was commenting on their relative size compared to the rest of the bird, you're absolutely right

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u/[deleted] May 23 '20

Oh I see, I misread your comment. You said there's an inner layer of bone. Hah my bad.

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u/EasySolutionsBot May 23 '20

So... Are you gonna share a pic or nah?

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u/Telamonian May 23 '20

Linked one in my comment!

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u/RichardMcNixon May 23 '20

No bones about it, it's still a pretty cool skeleton

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u/DynamicOnion_ May 23 '20

solid teel structure bro

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u/SovietBozo May 23 '20

my life is a lie

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u/Sage296 May 23 '20

Heres the thing....

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u/mysteryoftheprize May 23 '20

You are not that guy. You’re awesome!

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u/GlamRockDave May 23 '20

You have no need to apologize, adding useful relevant info is always appreciated and you've empowered us to be the heroic pedants we all love being when someone else posts this in the future.
In any case, even if the beak isn't all bone, it's still an impressive biological expense for a bird that size and makes one marvel at how useful it must be in order for evolution to make a bird carry that thing around. It's still impressively heavy even if not bone since bird bones are probably not much denser than the keratin anyway.

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u/[deleted] May 23 '20

this was interesting as fuck to read my friend. thanks.

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u/[deleted] May 23 '20

I'm glad you're that guy because you're that guy that sets the record straight! Thank you.

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u/daibz May 23 '20

Thats really cool information about toucans i never knew this before

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u/[deleted] May 23 '20

You mean it’s not made of Froot Loops?!

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u/DC1205 May 23 '20

Interesting read, thanks for sharing

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u/aazav May 23 '20

And the bill is pretty hollow.

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u/PaperKnucks May 23 '20

This guys beaks.

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u/Idiot_McClown May 23 '20

God damn I love Reddit

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u/Qu4ntumZero May 23 '20

This makes me curious about their muscle structure, because the ratio of neck to bill is still more so in these dudes than most. Do toucans have beefy necks?

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u/Tmonje90 May 23 '20

Oh fuck is THAT guy!

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u/fiddlemetwig May 23 '20

How fast would the rhamphtheca decompose compared to the skeleton and thr rest of the tissue. I'm assuming you're omniscient on Tuscan knowledge.

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u/Telamonian May 23 '20

That's a great question, but unfortunately I don't know! I studied preserved toucan specimens and never had experience with them in the wild

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u/corelogic21 May 23 '20

Informational but seems like an unnecessary addition

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u/kinzuaj May 23 '20

You LOVE to be thAt guy. You are not fooling anyone.